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A Prince Speaks: Otto von Habsburg on Europe

 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject: A Prince Speaks: Otto von Habsburg on Europe Reply with quote

A Prince Speaks: Otto von Habsburg on Europe

GAMING, AUSTRIA (11-28-05)– A small and slow moving city huddled in the Alps of Austria has become the host of a member of a dying breed, Crowned Prince Otto von Habsburg, one of the last real statesmen, as a local lawyer referred to him. Dr. von Habsburg on Monday visited the “Maria-Thron Kartause” in Gaming; the sole claim to fame of this isolated town.

The Kartause, dating back to 1333, housed over a hundred monks for several hundred years until Emperor Joseph II dissolved it because of his enlightenment ideals. The Monastery served for a while as storage space for woodcutters and briefly after World War II as a barracks for Russian soldiers. In has now been restored and acts as a campus for three educational institutions: The International Theological Institution, Ave Maria University, and the Franciscan University of Steubenville.

For many years now Dr. von Habsburg has visited every semester the Kartause to pay respects to an ancestor buried in the Monastery Church and to speak to students. This semester he spoke of Europe and the challenges which Europe faced.

“I would like to thank you again for that article you gave me concerning my Polish counterparts,” he began referring to an article which everyone had received. “It, however, painted a little to bleak a picture,” he noted.

With this His Royal Imperial Highness began painting a bleak but not hopeless picture of Europe. The enemy, he noted, has been well organized for a long time. “I’m not anti-clerical,” he still insisted even while taking exception to the attitude which blinded Catholic clergy and laity to the coming revolution.

Prince Otto von Habsburg, who last year attended the beatification of his father, the last Austrian Emperor, Charles I, is not ninety-three years old, but still energetic. During the course of the night he spoke of the systematic destruction of Catholic morality and tolerance of religion as well as the evils of Russia and the political hopes for Europe’s future.

Concerning Russia he maintained boldly “Stalin is not dead, his body died, but his mind lived on.” Describing the coup which put Putin in power, Dr. von Habsburg maintained that Putin is completely Stalinistic in thought. Put into his position by the KGB he had been a member of the KGB himself. Putin, says Dr. von Habsburg, has restored the gulags, and systematically taken over businesses within Russia. Last year, for example, it was the oil, earlier this year the shipping, and most recently the transportation. The former owners of the businesses have either escaped to England or Israel or been imprisoned. Putin has also imprisoned everyone who had previously financially supported democratic reform.

“We don’t read much about it in our newspapers,” His Highness affirmed. For example, “in his first public speech, which was only published in three or four of our newspapers, and no one read those anyway, Putin promised to double military spending by 2005. He’s done it.” Another thing, he says, that the newspapers have hardly reported (“only three or four lines”) is the 15% increase in military spending just this past year. When asked about the numbers of people in Russia who support these changes or serve in the military, Dr. von. Habsburg affirmed that it was a secret diligently kept by Russia, but not by the government, he says. The government is just a figurehead, it is a small commission which runs the government formed mostly of KGB agents.

On the European front the crowned prince was slightly more optimistic. While describing France as one of the most virulently anti-Catholic forces in the world today, he said that the most popular and youngest parliamentary agent, of whom he described himself as very fond and whom he said was likely to be Prime Minister within a few years, he described as a Catholic who wished to overturn to decision of 1905 against Catholic priests and Catholic institutions. He offered hope that France may once again begin funding Catholic schools and supporting religions projects. “This includes the Mohomedians,” he said, but he indicated that he didn’t believe that this was bad. “I would rather have a Mohomedian who believes in God than an Atheist,” he maintained.

While there are also members of Spain and of Austria which he said offered hope, the major hope he said he saw in Eastern Europe, especially Poland. Listing of several Eastern European countries which have reawakened a battle which the secular westerners had long thought over--a battle over homosexuality, women’s rights, and the death penalty--he also offered his opinion that Ukraine would soon join the European Union to the betterment to Europe. “It needs to happen and it will happen,” he said.

What should people do about the forces against the rich European tradition? Dr. von Habsburg suggested that what was needed was good politicians and especially good beaurocrats because, as he maintained, most of the decisions are already made by how the beaurocrats present the issue to the politicians. “Only two careers are worthwhile,” he said in answer to questions, “priests and politicians.” Although teaching is also an essential vocation, “other than those, nothing.” Both priests and politicians he listed as having a direct impact on both the spiritual and the temporal state of individuals and the country. So, when he gave his advice, he suggested that good Catholic youth should consider joining the lower level political positions where the major decisions were made.

Otto von Habsburg is the last crowned prince of Austria, but, because of the dissolution of the empire of his age it is unlikely that he will ever ascend the throne. He has been married for fifty years and has seven children and twenty-two grand-children, some of whom have also entered politics.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject: Stat Crux dum Volvitur Orbis Reply with quote

If monks like the Carthusians came back in force, the church would be a lot healthier. They haven't been immune to modernism though. Who has?They don't have many vocations, if any at all that last, and who really knows what they're up to?
Their Charterhouse in the U.S.A. typifies the poisonous effects
of modernism. It looks like an awful gulag compared with the older
Charterhouses in Europe. It's all grey, synthetic and grave like soviet architecture. It is out of the realm of traditional Christian austerity. One thinks they forgot about giving glory to God, that is worthy of Him, in
all the twentieth century cement. It's almost enough to inspire another conspiracy theory.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for posting this. Where did you find it?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

royalcello wrote:
Thanks for posting this. Where did you find it?


I wrote it. I'm at the Kartause and attended the speach. The most interesting part, certainly, was his section on the evils of Russia. I also bowed to him and shook his hand.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Russia can annihilate Europe and the USA in 10 minutes.

The powers that be, the New World Order, wants us to believe that the Moslems are the Elephant, and Russia has collapsed and become a mosquito. The reality is that the USA is like a lion, while Russia is the Elephant, and the Moslem terrorists are the mosquito.

Terrorists that can't even defeat the Israeli Police, are a "threat to Global security", and Russia has collapsed? A sucker is born every minute.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:26 am    Post subject: Re: A Prince Speaks: Otto von Habsburg on Europe Reply with quote

totustuusmaria wrote:
A Prince Speaks: Otto von Habsburg on Europe


Your writing deserves, and this one in particular, wider circulation. I pray you have presented it to the Polish and Ukrainian media?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nadieimportante wrote:
Russia can annihilate Europe and the USA in 10 minutes.

The powers that be, the New World Order, wants us to believe that the Moslems are the Elephant, and Russia has collapsed and become a mosquito. The reality is that the USA is like a lion, while Russia is the Elephant, and the Moslem terrorists are the mosquito.

Terrorists that can't even defeat the Israeli Police, are a "threat to Global security", and Russia has collapsed? A sucker is born every minute.


If you want a really scary read about just how powerful and unrepentantly Stalinist today's Russia actually is, I can recommend <I>Putin's Russia</I> by dissident Anna Politkovskaya (London, 2004). She mentions, among much else, the fact that Tamara Pechernikova is back on the job and in the regime's good books. Who was Tamara Pechernikova, you ask? The sadist who - back in the 1970s - ran the Serbski Psychiatry Institute, where opponents of Brezhnev's terror were judged to be "mentally ill".

Yes, boys and girls, this is the "death of Communism" our masters babble about.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Terrorists that can't even defeat the Israeli Police, are a "threat to Global security", and Russia has collapsed?

Yep. You must mean the same ineffectual little group of "terrorists" that sent the Soviet empire scuttling out of Afghanistan, after a ten-year kicking and with their pants round their ankles.
Definitely no threat from that piddling little bunch. Ugh! Ugh!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Terrorists that can't even defeat the Israeli Police, are a "threat to Global security", and Russia has collapsed?

Yep. You must mean the same ineffectual little group of "terrorists" that sent the Soviet empire scuttling out of Afghanistan, after a ten-year kicking and with their pants round their ankles.
Definitely no threat from that piddling little bunch. :eek: :eek:


Those Afghanis were not terrorists, they were defending their homes. BIG difference. They had the Reagan administration openly supplying them with weapons.

How many minutes did it take the US to change things in Afghanistan? If Russia and the world press would have backed the Taliban, like they did the Vietnamese, we'd be in the same boat as the Soviets, and the English before them.

The Afghanis, as well as all the Moslem terrorists, can't EXPORT their terror. That's why I bring the point out of the Israeli Police. They can't even defeat them, and the Moslems are the majority there, and are inside the citadel!

By the way, I’m not saying that the Moslem terrorists are not a bother, mosquitoes have to be killed, or else they’ll bite you. HOWEVER, DON’T FORGET/IGNORE THE DANGEROUS ELEPHANT in the room.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for posting this. As you may be able to tell from my name, I am grateful for the Catholic Hapsburg dynasty; indeed, my ancestors were their subjects.

As for the horrible architecture that is the only Charterhouse in the U.S. (just outside Manchester, Vermont), I must tell you how I discovered it. The monks own Mount Equinox. I took some students to the summit. As we looked down into the valley, a student asked, "What are those buildings down there?" Another student answered, "It looks like a prison, it's probably a prison or mental institution." Later I found out that the 'prison' is the monastery. I couldn't believe it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Those Afghanis were not terrorists, they were defending their homes. BIG difference. They had the Reagan administration openly supplying them with weapons.

Well, you've gone part of the way to dismantling your earlier argument. To the extent that the Reagan administration supplied the mujaheddin with aid and materiel, the curent administration - and other western nations- continue to dig their own graves by funding Islamic Jihad by way of petrodollars. Take Saudi, Iran and the Gulf States out of the frame and see what happens.

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How many minutes did it take the US to change things in Afghanistan? If Russia and the world press would have backed the Taliban, like they did the Vietnamese, we'd be in the same boat as the Soviets, and the English before them.

Are you serious?. We're still there. How long do you think that's going to last? And don't even get me started on Iraq.

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The Afghanis, as well as all the Moslem terrorists, can't EXPORT their terror. That's why I bring the point out of the Israeli Police. They can't even defeat them, and the Moslems are the majority there, and are inside the citadel!

What???!! I know from your postings that you're an intelligent person, so why you would posit such nonsense here has me stumped.

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By the way, I’m not saying that the Moslem terrorists are not a bother, mosquitoes have to be killed, or else they’ll bite you. HOWEVER, DON’T FORGET/IGNORE THE DANGEROUS ELEPHANT in the room.


Looking at that coin from the other side, I am in no doubt about the evils of marxism, nor that it is alive and well - I've spent most of my life fighting it. But, no matter how repulsive a creature is Putin, he's not about to go head to head with the USA. Certainly not in any military sense. Nor is there any danger of Soviet T72s thundering across the central European plains. They don't need to. Intellectual marxism has already done the job for them in Europe - and is making a pretty decent fist of it in your own country. But, just as that same godless, secular humanism has demolished Christianity in Europe, so too will it fall to Islam. And, it won't take Saladin's hordes to do it, they just have to sit back and quietly breed as they watch us autodestruct.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Selous wrote:
"the current administration - and other western nations- continue to dig their own graves by funding Islamic Jihad by way of petrodollars"

nadieimportante responds:
not just the current administration ALL administrations since before WWI have funded their future enemies. China is our next adversary see http://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/i25htWesterman_FinancingDestruction.html

Compared to Russia and China, the Moslem terrorists are mosquitoes.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have actually been inside and visited the Charterhouse in Vermont.

They appear to be living the authentic Carthusian rule and vocation; however, it's impossible to say for certain because the monks spend much of their time in their own cells.

The problem is the theology. They seem to be quite modernist in their thinking.
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