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servitium
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 Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 5:07 pm Post subject: Two AQ members hitting mainstream media TV in one day |
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Today, on Fox News (Glenn Beck show), Tom Woods was speaking on behalf of the Mises Institute. As is often the case (like when he hosted his EWTN program) he was articulate and a pleasure to watch.
Coincidentally (or not), shortly after discovering that, it was brought to my attention that Jill Stanek had the honor of receiving "Worst Person in the World" award from the insufferable, leftist MSNBC hack, Keith Olbermann.
Both are members here.
Here's the link to Lifesite reporting on Olbermanns screed. |
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Makes me wish I had a TV. Go Trads!
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| dymphna17 wrote: | | Makes me wish I had a TV. Go Trads! |
Woods was just excellent as usual. I've always liked him and rarely disagree with him. He's ever-intelligent and has a way of surgically destroying the opposition while coming across as Mr. Rogers. His EWTN program was one of the few that I thoroughly enjoyed.
I don't believe Stanek is a Catholic, but she likes us, as do many conservative Protestants. She's been often been in the headlines because of her work for pro-life causes. That Uber-manic is awarding her "Worst Person in the World" is a great badge of honor. |
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| Are you going to add a direct video feed to the site? |
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| HowlinglyAbsurd wrote: | | Are you going to add a direct video feed to the site? |
AQ TV
Hmmmm...the next AQ project? |
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| servitium wrote: | | dymphna17 wrote: | | Makes me wish I had a TV. Go Trads! |
Woods was just excellent as usual. I've always liked him and rarely disagree with him. He's ever-intelligent and has a way of surgically destroying the opposition while coming across as Mr. Rogers. His EWTN program was one of the few that I thoroughly enjoyed.
I don't believe Stanek is a Catholic, but she likes us, as do many conservative Protestants. She's been often been in the headlines because of her work for pro-life causes. That Uber-manic is awarding her "Worst Person in the World" is a great badge of honor. |
I was about to say, the worst person in the world award should be seen as an honor.
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[quote="servitium"] | dymphna17 wrote: | | Makes me wish I had a TV. Go Trads! |
He's ever-intelligent and has a way of surgically destroying the opposition while coming across as Mr. Rogers.
I think I met someone that fits this description.... He used to sell Obama shirts on Maxwell Street...what a character...but watch out...he's got a new gig that turns court rooms into scenes like the Stooges did in that episode where they called the judge "judgy wudgy" It's a court room scene never before witnessed!!!! |
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| Kopp wrote: | | HowlinglyAbsurd wrote: | | Are you going to add a direct video feed to the site? |
AQ TV
Hmmmm...the next AQ project? |
Your wish is their command!
Even as we speak, Serv, Tim and ECS have dispatched a crack team of engineers, cameramen and members of the Howard K. Smith Fan Club to begin live, online coverage of breaking Traditional news stories around the globe!
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lucky Jill.
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"he's got a new gig that turns court rooms into scenes like the Stooges did in that episode where they called the judge "judgy wudgy" It's a court room scene never before witnessed!!!!"
you mean like this...
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There is no way a libertarian can be a Traditionalist. Especially a follower of Ludwig von Mises or Murray Rothbard. Attending the Traditional Mass does not make one a Traditionalist. Chris Ferrara's argument is quite strong and Tom Wood's letter to the Remnant is weak. |
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What I thought was more than a little off was his offering up his former mates to that shower in the SPLC. In his letter to the Remnant he seemed to be quite upset about the fact that the Remnant had not reviewed any of his recent books, but given his behaviour I can hardly see how he has grounds for complaint.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: Two AQ members hitting mainstream media TV in one day |
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| servitium wrote: | Today, on Fox News (Glenn Beck show), Tom Woods was speaking on behalf of the Mises Institute. As is often the case (like when he hosted his EWTN program) he was articulate and a pleasure to watch.
Coincidentally (or not), shortly after discovering that, it was brought to my attention that Jill Stanek had the honor of receiving "Worst Person in the World" award from the insufferable, leftist MSNBC hack, Keith Olbermann.
Both are members here.
Here's the link to Lifesite reporting on Olbermanns screed. |
What? My interview on CBS Nightly News (hosted by Katie Couric) with gun in hand didn't count? Then again, I guess she is far left of mainstream. |
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| I might say that some family members of mine have been treated at the same Christ Hospital that Miss Stanek worked at. My mother hates that hospital with a passion for all their screwups and incompetency. |
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There is no way a libertarian can be a Traditionalist. Especially a follower of Ludwig von Mises or Murray Rothbard. Attending the Traditional Mass does not make one a Traditionalist. Chris Ferrara's argument is quite strong and Tom Wood's letter to the Remnant is weak. |
I do take many issues with what they have to say but I still think they are worth reading and considering. Their style of government would be preferable to what we now have in most of the world. We as Catholics would have the right to refuse to rent an apartment to co-habitating couples. We would be able to refuse to offer health benefits to a "domestic partner". We would not be forced to subsidize the public schools. Of course my first choice would be a Catholic confessional state. |
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| fizmath wrote: | | A Jeweller wrote: |
There is no way a libertarian can be a Traditionalist. Especially a follower of Ludwig von Mises or Murray Rothbard. Attending the Traditional Mass does not make one a Traditionalist. Chris Ferrara's argument is quite strong and Tom Wood's letter to the Remnant is weak. |
I do take many issues with what they have to say but I still think they are worth reading and considering. Their style of government would be preferable to what we now have in most of the world. We as Catholics would have the right to refuse to rent an apartment to co-habitating couples. We would be able to refuse to offer health benefits to a "domestic partner". We would not be forced to subsidize the public schools. Of course my first choice would be a Catholic confessional state. |
I understand your sentiment and am often attracted to it, as obviously Servitium is. I can take Wilhelm Roepke, but not gay marriage, open borders and free global trade. All proposed by the libertarians. Please, FM, read more about them. Chris Ferrara and John Rao are pretty good sources. |
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| Quote: | | I can take Wilhelm Roepke, but not gay marriage, open borders and free global trade. |
We have all of that now anyway.
And you're talking about the (L)ibertarian party, not anything I ascribe to, except - depending on how it's defined - free trade.
Mises was brilliant - even demostrably prophetic - on economics. Unless one favors something like the Keynesian model, there really isn't much to argue with. |
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| servitium wrote: | | Quote: | | I can take Wilhelm Roepke, but not gay marriage, open borders and free global trade. |
We have all of that now anyway.
And you're talking about the (L)ibertarian party, not anything I ascribe to, except - depending on how it's defined - free trade.
Mises was brilliant - even demostrably prophetic - on economics. Unless one favors something like the Keynesian model, there really isn't much to argue with. |
I'd be very interested to know if Tom Woods is on record as supporting neg-am loans to help the poor afford houses. It would seem that he would have supported such programs.
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When it comes to Capitalism, the Austrian school is the best thing out there. Keyensian economics is a total failure and absurdity. Supply Side is the flip side of the same coin.
The problem is that Tom Woods, as well as many other Catholics, support Capitalism and there has been an increasing number of Catholics who believe Capitalism is evil and Catholics should not defend any type of Capitalism. They champion their Chesterton/Belloc economic system that has not been addressed yet by the Magisterium, and want every Catholic to accept it by force. |
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| Rafael wrote: | | The problem is that Tom Woods, as well as many other Catholics, support Capitalism and there has been an increasing number of Catholics who believe Capitalism is evil and Catholics should not defend any type of Capitalism. They champion their Chesterton/Belloc economic system that has not been addressed yet by the Magisterium, and want every Catholic to accept it by force. |
Those Catholics who believe capitalism is evil believe so largely because they mistake the merchantilism/corporatism we have today for a system of true free markets and property rights. Incidetntally, (what used to be) the modern Western concepts of free markets and property is largely a product of the Catholic monarchies and societies, as is the common law and legal systems that make it all possible.
Belloc and Chesterton may have been great writers and philosophers, but as far as economics go they were woefully shortsighted and sophomoric. |
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| servitium wrote: | | Rafael wrote: | | The problem is that Tom Woods, as well as many other Catholics, support Capitalism and there has been an increasing number of Catholics who believe Capitalism is evil and Catholics should not defend any type of Capitalism. They champion their Chesterton/Belloc economic system that has not been addressed yet by the Magisterium, and want every Catholic to accept it by force. |
Those Catholics who believe capitalism is evil believe so largely because they mistake the merchantilism/corporatism we have today for a system of true free markets and property rights. Incidetntally, (what used to be) the modern Western concepts of free markets and property is largely a product of the Catholic monarchies and societies, as is the common law and legal systems that make it all possible.
Belloc and Chesterton may have been great writers and philosophers, but as far as economics go they were woefully shortsighted and sophomoric. |
Exactly! On another website ( which I won't mention ) there have been several investigations into the distributist theory, about which some very unpleasant things seem to be true. Chesterton was a splendid, gifted and deeply insightful writer. Belloc, at least his views regarding certain historical events militating adversely against the Church, are another matter altogether.
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| But...but...but....when I read about Distributism I feel so philosophical, deep, and smart. |
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Now, now Halln. Don't feel badly. Ward was a distributist a few years ago, too, but Fred Rutherford straightened him out. Have some cookies and you can wait for Wally to come home from his von Mises Club meeting.
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| St. Domenic wrote: | | Did housewives really wear pearls while cleaning toilets and baking pies? |
Oh, all the time, Dom! All the time! 
Actually, though, the only really important thing was they were HOME! And they RAN that household! You must be a young feller, but I can tell you that growing up in the 50s and early 60s was a splendid experience.
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| gpmtrad wrote: | | St. Domenic wrote: | | Did housewives really wear pearls while cleaning toilets and baking pies? |
Oh, all the time, Dom! All the time!
Actually, though, the only really important thing was they were HOME! And they RAN that household! You must be a young feller, but I can tell you that growing up in the 50s and early 60s was a splendid experience. |
Why thank you, but I'm over 30  and certainly not a 'feller'.
I am foreign-born and I never experienced the 50's in the US. The 60's, yes, but American culture was totally foreign to us. It was only in the 70's when I really felt inculturated. (It wasn't good.)
I kinda like those 50's dresses! |
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Why thank you, but I'm over 30 and certainly not a 'feller'.
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| servitium wrote: | | Rafael wrote: | | The problem is that Tom Woods, as well as many other Catholics, support Capitalism and there has been an increasing number of Catholics who believe Capitalism is evil and Catholics should not defend any type of Capitalism. They champion their Chesterton/Belloc economic system that has not been addressed yet by the Magisterium, and want every Catholic to accept it by force. |
Those Catholics who believe capitalism is evil believe so largely because they mistake the merchantilism/corporatism we have today for a system of true free markets and property rights. Incidetntally, (what used to be) the modern Western concepts of free markets and property is largely a product of the Catholic monarchies and societies, as is the common law and legal systems that make it all possible.
Belloc and Chesterton may have been great writers and philosophers, but as far as economics go they were woefully shortsighted and sophomoric. |
While I find much to admire in Chesterton's works (haven't read any Belloc yet), I am still put off by his enthusiasm for democracy and in particular his praise for the French Revolution. I corresponded with Dale Ahlquist a while back on this, and while he was very gracious in his responses, I was left unsatisfied with his defenses of Chesterton's democraphilism (if that is a word.... or for that matter, even if it isn't a word!). |
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