Albany, Oct 13, 2008 / 04:40 pm (CNA).- A new Zogby poll claims that the presidential race between Republican Sen. John McCain and Democrat Sen. Barack Obama is again narrowing, with Monday results showing Obama leading McCain 47.9 percent to 43.6 percent. Obama enjoys a slightly greater lead among Catholics.
Among self-described Catholics, Obama leads by 49.5 percent to 44.3 percent, Stephanie DeVries, Zogby assistant director of communications, told CNA in a Monday e-mail.
According to Zogby, McCain gained eight-tenths of a point among all likely voters, while Obama lost one full point.
The Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby three-day tracking poll of 1,206 likely voters was conducted over a three-day period, with about 400 respondents interviewed each day. It claims a margin of error of plus or minus 2.6 percent. _________________ http://www.geocities.com/demographic_crash
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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:57 pm Post subject:
No Catholic can support Obama/Biden. They are pro-abortion with Obama in favor of infanticide. These people are CINO's who have excommunicated themselves.
They may have been mislead by so-called Catholics that think other issues are more-important, but they are not.
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: Self-described?
Quote:
Among self-described Catholics, Obama leads by 49.5 percent to 44.3 percent, Stephanie DeVries, Zogby assistant director of communications, told CNA in a Monday e-mail.
The boldfaced portion of the quote tells it all for to be complicit in the abortion, read murder, of the innocent by voting for a "pro-choice" candidate is to endanger one's eternal salvation -- that is, if one is truly concerned about one's eternal salvation. At the same time, I've become more and more disenchanted with McCain and were it to be today that I'd be voting, I'd have to select Chuck Baldwin. He seems to be the only one with a truly pro-life position. _________________ Pre-Vatican II Catholic-16 yrs Catholic schooling.
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: Calling the kettle black
phaley wrote:
Quote:
Among self-described Catholics, Obama leads by 49.5 percent to 44.3 percent, Stephanie DeVries, Zogby assistant director of communications, told CNA in a Monday e-mail.
The boldfaced portion of the quote tells it all for to be complicit in the abortion, read murder, of the innocent by voting for a "pro-choice" candidate is to endanger one's eternal salvation -- that is, if one is truly concerned about one's eternal salvation. At the same time, I've become more and more disenchanted with McCain and were it to be today that I'd be voting, I'd have to select Chuck Baldwin. He seems to be the only one with a truly pro-life position.
Then you are as complicit in the murder of innocents as the Obama voters, because your ballot for Baldwin validates, instead of cancels, one of theirs. _________________ Adrian, how did everything that was so good get so bad?
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: Re: Calling the kettle black
St. Elmo wrote:
phaley wrote:
Quote:
Among self-described Catholics, Obama leads by 49.5 percent to 44.3 percent, Stephanie DeVries, Zogby assistant director of communications, told CNA in a Monday e-mail.
The boldfaced portion of the quote tells it all for to be complicit in the abortion, read murder, of the innocent by voting for a "pro-choice" candidate is to endanger one's eternal salvation -- that is, if one is truly concerned about one's eternal salvation. At the same time, I've become more and more disenchanted with McCain and were it to be today that I'd be voting, I'd have to select Chuck Baldwin. He seems to be the only one with a truly pro-life position.
Then you are as complicit in the murder of innocents as the Obama voters, because your ballot for Baldwin validates, instead of cancels, one of theirs.
Negatory, my friend, it is those who vote for Obama that are complicit in the murder of the innocents. If every Catholic voted for Baldwin, and there is still time for that to happen, then the Obama victory would not at all be certain.
The problem is - Catholics don't see this issue with the priority I give it - not even traditional Catholics. As for McCain, how can I vote for a man who essentially threw away his first wife for the likes of a new blond bombshell? What vows were exchanged between McCain and his first wife? What about the verse what God has joined together let no man put asunder? What about his refusal, early on, to be 100% pro-life and not in favor of embryonic stem cell research or for victims of rape or incest? Gimme a break, voting for Baldwin is being complicit in the murder of the innocents? You cannot be serious. _________________ Pre-Vatican II Catholic-16 yrs Catholic schooling.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:55 am Post subject: Re: Calling the kettle black
St. Elmo wrote:
phaley wrote:
Quote:
Among self-described Catholics, Obama leads by 49.5 percent to 44.3 percent, Stephanie DeVries, Zogby assistant director of communications, told CNA in a Monday e-mail.
The boldfaced portion of the quote tells it all for to be complicit in the abortion, read murder, of the innocent by voting for a "pro-choice" candidate is to endanger one's eternal salvation -- that is, if one is truly concerned about one's eternal salvation. At the same time, I've become more and more disenchanted with McCain and were it to be today that I'd be voting, I'd have to select Chuck Baldwin. He seems to be the only one with a truly pro-life position.
Then you are as complicit in the murder of innocents as the Obama voters, because your ballot for Baldwin validates, instead of cancels, one of theirs.
This is the same kind of thinking that led the German people to rally around Adolph Hitler as an alternative to Communism. A vote for anyone other than Adolph was a vote for Uncle Joe, they believed, and history has shown us the results of that kind of sloppy thinking.
From another current thread ("Public Response to a Private Message"):
Caoimhghen wrote:
Hey, if a vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Barack Obama, then is a vote for Barack Obama two votes for Barack Obama?
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: Self-described?
phaley wrote:
Quote:
Among self-described Catholics, Obama leads by 49.5 percent to 44.3 percent, Stephanie DeVries, Zogby assistant director of communications, told CNA in a Monday e-mail.
The boldfaced portion of the quote tells it all for to be complicit in the abortion, read murder, of the innocent by voting for a "pro-choice" candidate is to endanger one's eternal salvation -- that is, if one is truly concerned about one's eternal salvation. At the same time, I've become more and more disenchanted with McCain and were it to be today that I'd be voting, I'd have to select Chuck Baldwin. He seems to be the only one with a truly pro-life position.
Chuck Baldwin is not on the California Ballot, but Alan Keys is - he's also a no-compromise Pro-Life Catholic - so Alan will get my vote!
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