JUST HOW MUCH DOES THE REVISION OF THE SACRAMENTS, THE ECCLESIOLOGY OF THE CHURCH AND THE POST VATICAN II CHURCH’S EMPHASIS ON SOCIAL WORK AND THE CHURCH BEING LIKE AN NGO CONTRIBUTE TO THE SELF-REFERENTIAL CHURCH THAT POPE FRANCIS CONDEMNS TIME AND TIME AGAIN, MAKING AN IDOL (IDOLATRY) OUT OF ECCLESIOLOGY AND THE PEOPLE OF GOD?????  

JUST HOW MUCH DOES THE REVISION OF THE SACRAMENTS, THE ECCLESIOLOGY OF THE CHURCH AND THE POST VATICAN II CHURCH’S EMPHASIS ON SOCIAL WORK AND THE CHURCH BEING LIKE AN NGO CONTRIBUTE TO THE SELF-REFERENTIAL CHURCH THAT POPE FRANCIS CONDEMNS TIME AND TIME AGAIN, MAKING AN IDOL (IDOLATRY) OUT OF ECCLESIOLOGY AND THE PEOPLE OF GOD?????

Fr. Anthony Ruff OSB of Praytell should have said that the pre-Vatican II liturgy is priestly and those within the sanctuary offer Mass in an ordained priestly fashion, be they altar boys who point to seminarians and the orders of porter,lector and acolyte not to mention sub deacon, deacon, priest and bishop. THIS IS CLERICAL, BUT IT ISN’T CLERICALISM!

The post-Vatican II Mass and the idolatry of the so-called post Vatican II ecclesiology which places man at the center, not God is true “clericalism and laityism.” And priests prancing about the Liturgy as though celebrities promoting the cult of the personality, isn’t clerical IT IS CLERICALISM!  

Please note where the celebrant’s chair is in both of these post-Vatican II churches–which promotes clericalism on steroids when the priest’s chair is at the highest pinnacle of a church. There is an elitist psychology at work here contributing to Christ’s altar being dethroned and the priest placed on a physical pedestal:

In condemning the Chilean bishops, Pope Francis’ prophetic words have a special resonance with those who believe the post-Vatican II Church is by its very nature, a self-referential Church in rupture with the Church prior to Vatican II which placed God at the center of all her works, especially the Sacraments, not man:

(Pope Francis) blamed in part a fractured seminary process, including the allowance of men with history of active homosexuality, but also stressed the need to recognize the underlying causes. He denounced himself but also held the entire Chilean episcopate responsible, too, saying no one could be exempted. 

The Pope noted a “loss of prophetic strength,” called on the Chilean Church to again put Christ at the center, not itself, and warned against an “elite psychology,” clericalism and “messianism.” Prayer and sincere recognition of failings is necessary for grace to work, he added.

My comments:

All the post Vatican II spirit of Vatican II turmoil, all the desire for the new and novel, all the iconoclasm of our churches and sacraments to reorient all toward each other and to make the congregation the center and not Christ the center can be said to have contributed to the unprecedented decline and fall of the Catholic Church throughout the world. The lack of Godly leadership by bishops and priests is at the foundation of this decline and fall.

Think of the corruption of the post-Vatican II Mass with the priest facing the congregation as though an entertainer or celebrity, his own personality in terms of warmth and demeanor, his own creativity, his own particular cult and the congregation turned in on itself as though as in a circle of kumbaya hand holding adherents to each other and not the true Godhead hasn’t all this contributed to what Pope Francis properly diagnosis as Christ no longer the center of our sacraments, we are!!!!!

Ad orientem can once again place Christ at the center and solve so many of the problems of post-Vatican II clericalism on steroids!!!!!

The Mass as celebrated by so many priests in the Ordinary Form facing the people with the priest at the center and the people at the center too, leads to an “elite psychology, clericalism and messianism.”

And when Fr. Anthony Ruff pontificates on the “People of God” ecclesiology of Vatican II in contrast and in rupture with the pre-Vatican II Church and I quote:

 On the one hand, there is our checkered history of 1000+ years of highly clericalized liturgy which was hardly an act of the entire people of God. A traditional distortion this deeply rooted is not turned around overnight. (And readmitting the celebration of the unreformed “Tridentine” liturgy which does not reflect the ecclesiology of the Second Vatican Council tends to impede us from the necessary work of figuring out how to celebrate the reformed rites more adequately.)

Then Fr. Ruff is the problem not the pre-Vatican II Mass with its contrasting ecclesiology which in fact places Christ at the center of the Church’s ecclesiology not man! 

My Final comments:

Fr. Ruff should have said that the pre-Vatican II liturgy is priestly and those within the sanctuary offer Mass in an ordained priestly fashion, be they altar boys who point to seminarians and the orders of porter,lector and acoyltye not to mention sub deacon, deacon, priest and bishop. THIS IS CLERICAL, BUT IT ISN’T CLERICALISM!

The post-Vatican II Mass and the idolatry of the so-called post Vatican II ecclesiology which places man at the center, not God is true “clericalism and laityism.” And priests prancing about the Liturgy as though celebrities promoting the cult of the personality, isn’t clerical IT IS CLERICALISM! 

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  1. The Catholic faith is NOT primarily concerned with debatable issues of progressive politics and economics. This is an idea which derives from modernism and is of recent origin.
    A society where there were more practicing, orthodox Catholics would become more just and more compassionate and charitable as a result from the increase in grace but the bishops will need to work on catechesis, evangelization, religious vocations, and mass attendance before that becomes possible or likely. An increase in charity is impossible without improvements in Catholic education and mass attendance (i.e., the true mass with non-modernist priests).

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