Opie Dopie Priest Claims „John Paul II Saw Muslim Hordes Invading Europe“

Opie Dopie Priest [Claims] „John Paul II Saw Muslim Hordes Invading Europe“

[Rather JP2 was the first “Pope of Islam” – visiting mosques on two seperate occasions and kissing a Koran presented to him in the Vatican by a visiting delegation of Iraqi religious officials, including the Chaldean Catholic Patriarch, who said the photo of that gesture (shown repeatedly on Iraqi television) showed the Pope had a great respect for Islam]

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John Paul II had a vision about Islam according to Opus Dei Monsignor Mauro Longhi, 68, a former official in the Congregation for Clergy. From 1985 to 1995 Longhi used to accompany John Paul II during his holiday in Abruzzo. Longhi is convinced that John Paul II was a visionary.

In a video published by Eventi per Famiglie Longhi says that in March 1993 John Paul II told him about a vision: “I see the Church of the third millennium afflicted by a deadly wound called Islam. They will invade Europe. I saw hordes coming from West to East, from Morocco to Libya, from Egypt to countries of the orient.”

Longhi’s account is not really credible. “Muslim hordes” is not an expression belonging to the vocabulary of John Paul II who in 1999 kissed the Koran and in 2000 made a prayer that Saint John Baptist may protect Islam.

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8 comments on “Opie Dopie Priest Claims „John Paul II Saw Muslim Hordes Invading Europe“

  1. Aquinas, citing Aristotle, taught that any departure from the parallel at the beginning leads to an infinite separation.

    True for false religions. True for ” mere philosophical tourists” (an apt description coined by a Trad Jesuit philosophy professor I knew) like Papa Wojtyla.

  2. The most respected Thomist of his time, Fr Garrigou-LeGrange, OP, had Wojtyla as a student.

    The instructor is reported to have summed up his pupil this way: “Wrote much. Said little.”

  3. [More on JP2’s prophetic vision of militant Islam rising]

    Newly revealed vision of St. Pope John Paul: Islam will invade Europe

    Dorothy Cummings McLean

    Bienno, Italy, November 23, 2017 (LifeSiteNews): A close friend of Saint John Paul II has affirmed that the late pope, revealed to have been a mystic, told him that Europe would be invaded by Islam.

    Speaking to a large group at the hermitage of “Saints Peter and Paul” this past October, Monsignor Mauro Longhi of the Opus Dei prelature recounted a conversation he had with the late pontiff in March of 1993 on one of their many hiking trips in the mountains. Having got ahead of the rest of their companions, Longhi and St. John Paul took a sandwich break.

    In video footage of the October talk, Longhi is heard saying that he noticed that the saint’s hands were trembling. (John Paul’s Parkinson’s disease had not yet been revealed in 1993.) The pope noticed the then-young man’s gaze.

    “Dear Mauro, it’s old age,” he explained.

    Longhi jumped in to say, “But, no, Holiness, you are young.”

    “It’s not true,” the pope snapped back. “I say that I am old because I am old.”

    Longhi continued: “Then Wojtyla changed tone, and making me privy to one of his night-time visions, told me, ‘Tell this to those whom you will meet in the Church of the third millennium. I see the Church afflicted by a deadly scourge. Deeper, more painful and more deadly than those of this millennium’, referring to … communism and Nazi totalitarianism. ‘It’s called islamism. They will invade Europe. I saw the hordes coming from the West to the East’, and he described to me the countries one by one: from Morocco to Libya to Egypt, and so on to the eastern parts. The Holy Father added, ‘They will invade Europe, Europe will be like a cellar, old relics, shadowy, cobwebs. Family heirlooms. You, the Church of the third millennium, will have to contain the invasion. Not with armies, armies will not suffice, but with your faith, lived with integrity.’ ”

    According to La Nuova Bussola Quotidiana, which broke the story in Italian, Longhi is a “priest above suspicion,” having “enjoyed the personal esteem not only of John Paul II but also of Benedict XVI, so much so that in 1997 he was called to the Vatican dicastery of the Congregation for Clergy.” Between 1985 and 1995 Longhi, who was ordained in 1995, accompanied John Paul II on his skiing and hiking trips, hosting him at Opus Dei’s summer home in Abruzzo, which at the time was only “a simple house in the countryside.”

    Longhi told the crowd that the pontiff used to sneak out of Rome in a modest car for these trips, accompanied by his personal secretary, Monsignor Stanislaw Dziwisz, and a few other Polish friends. When the car stopped at a tollbooth “the one place in which someone might recognize him”, “Papa Wojtyła” would pretend to be deeply engrossed in the newspaper he held before his face.

    John Paul II was famously an athlete; that he was also a mystic is much less known. Nevertheless, according to La Nuova Bussola Quotidiana, Longhi related that John Paul could be found at night on his knees before the Tabernacle in the chapel of the house in the mountains. Those who lived in the house could hear him conversing, “at times even animatedly” with the Lord or “with His beloved mother, the Virgin Mary.”

    Moreover, Longhi said that John Paul’s greatest friend, Cardinal Andrzej Deskur, had told him that the saint had the “gift of visions.” [Youtube footage: 00:31:05] When Longhi asked what that meant, Deskur said, “He speaks to God Incarnate, Jesus; he sees His face and he sees also the face of His mother.”

    Apparently these visions began at Karol Wojtyła’s first Mass, November 2, 1946, in the crypt of St. Leonard in Wawel Cathedral in Krakow, during the Elevation of the Host.

    Although John Paul II has sometimes been dubbed “the Pope of Islam”, and traditionalists have long deplored photos of the saint kissing the Koran, La Nuova Bussola Quotidiana holds that these revelations do not contradict his remarks in his “now-forgotten” 2003 encyclical Ecclesia in Europa. The journal observes that the Holy Father seemed to “beseech” Christians to be trained in “an objective knowledge of Islam”.

    In Ecclesia in Europe, John Paul II wrote that:

    57. … A proper relationship with Islam is particularly important. As has often become evident in recent years to the Bishops of Europe, this “needs to be conducted prudently, with clear ideas about possibilities and limits, and with confidence in God’s saving plan for all his children”. It is also necessary to take into account the notable gap between European culture, with its profound Christian roots, and Muslim thought.

    In this regard, Christians living in daily contact with Muslims should be properly trained in an objective knowledge of Islam and enabled to draw comparisons with their own faith. Such training should be provided particularly to seminarians, priests and all pastoral workers. It is on the other hand understandable that the Church, even as she asks the European institutions to ensure the promotion of religious freedom in Europe, should feel the need to insist that reciprocity in guaranteeing religious freedom also be observed in countries of different religious traditions, where Christians are a minority.

    In this context, “one can understand the astonishment and the feeling of frustration of Christians who welcome, for example in Europe, believers of other religions, giving them the possibility of exercising their worship, and who see themselves forbidden all exercise of Christian worship” in countries where those believers are in the majority and have made their own religion the only one admitted and promoted. The human person has a right to religious freedom, and all people, in every part of the world, “should be immune from coercion on the part of individuals, social groups and every human power”.

    La Nuova Bussola Quotidiana seems to be aware of the waves that its article will make with these revelations. The concluding paragraph of its article about Monsignor Longhi’s October 22 presentation observes that we are confronted with a “politically incorrect reading of the islamic phenomenon by a pope canonized by the Catholic Church.”

    The journal calls this reading both “prophetic” and “magisterial,” and suggests that the predicted invasion may already be happening. It ends:

    “Meanwhile, inexorably, the lights are going out on Christian Europe, reduced to a basement filled with old relics and spiderwebs. ‘Karol the Great’ has spoken, and even more today he invites us to resist the invasion with the faith lived in its entirety.”

    • I don’t know what to make of JP2’s vision on militant Islam rising in the third millennium, but here are his words on a peaceful and accomodating Islam from his 1994 book Crossing the Threshold of Hope [from the Second to the Third Milliennium]:

      A very different discussion, obviously, is the one that leads us to the synagogues and mosques, where those who worship the One God assemble. Yes, certainly it is a different case when we come to these great monotheistic religions, beginning with Islam. In the Declaration Nostra Aetate we read: “The Church also has a high regard for the Muslims, who worship one God, living and subsistent, merciful and omnipotent, the Creator of heaven and earth” (Nostra Aetate 3). As a result of their monotheism, believers in Allah are particularly close to us.

      I remember an event from my youth. In the convent of the Church of Saint Mark in Florence, we were looking at the frescoes by Fra Angelico. At a certain point a man joined us who, after sharing his admiration for the work of this great religious artist, immediately added: “But nothing can compare to our magnificent Muslim monotheism.” His statement did not prevent us from continuing the visit and the conversation in a friendly tone. It was on that occasion that I got a kind of first taste of the dialogue between Christianity and Islam, which we have tried to develop systematically in the post-conciliar period …

      Some of the most beautiful names in the human language are given to the God of the Koran …

      [T]he religiosity of Muslims deserves respect. It is impossible not to admire, for example, their fidelity to prayer. The image of believers in Allah who, without caring about time or place, fall to their knees and immerse themselves in prayer remains a model for all those who invoke the true God, in particular for those Christians who, having deserted their magnificent cathedrals, pray only a little or not at all.

      The Council has also called for the Church to have a dialogue with followers of the “Prophet,” and the Church has proceeded to do so. We read in Nostra Aetate: “Even if over the course of centuries Christians and Muslims have had more than a few dissensions and quarrels, this sacred Council now urges all to forget the past and to work toward mutual understanding as well as toward the preservation and promotion of social justice, moral welfare, peace, and freedom for the benefit of all mankind” (Nostra Aetate 3).

      From this point of view, as I have already mentioned, the meetings for prayer held at Assisi (especially that for peace in Bosnia, in 1993), certainly played a significant role. Also worthwhile were my meetings with the followers of Islam during my numerous apostolic trips to Africa and Asia, where sometimes, in a given country, the majority of the citizens were Muslims. Despite this, the Pope was welcomed with great hospitality and was listened to with similar graciousness.

      The trip I made to Morocco at the invitation of King Hassan II can certainly be defined as a historic event. It was not simply a courtesy visit, but an event of a truly pastoral nature. The encounter with the young people at Casablanca Stadium (1985) was unforgettable. The openness of the young people to the Pope’s words was striking when he spoke of faith in the one God. It was certainly an unprecedented event.



    • Karol the Great, pudding and pie,
      Kissed the Koran and made us cry.

      When in flames he comes today,
      Opie Dopies don’t run away.

  4. I’m inclined to accept that Wojtyla said it. It would be further proof of the enormous mind split of the pre- and post-conciliar Church he bore, exactly the great synthesis he strived to achieve. He could believe in 1993 that Islam would overrun Europe, yet in 1999, kiss the Koran. This working of contradictions is spelled out more clearly by Henri de Lubac, the heretic under Pius XII whom Wojtyla created cardinal. But first, here is Pope St. Pius X (I borrow from Larson)

    “In short, to maintain and defend these theories they do not hesitate to declare that the noblest homage that can be paid to the Infinite is to make it the object of contradictory statements! But when they justify even contradictions, what is it that they will refuse to justify?” (Pascendi, #36)

    Now. de Lubac from Parodoxes of Faith:
    “Paradoxes are paradoxical: they make sport of the usual and reasonable rule of not being allowed to be against as well as for. Yet, unlike dialectics, they do not involve the clever turning of for into against. Neither are they only a conditioning of the one by the other. They are the simultaneity of the one and the other. They are even something more – lacking which, moreover, they would only be vulgar contradiction [which is exactly, as we shall see, what they often are in the hands of de Lubac – Larson]. They do not sin against logic, whose laws remain inviolable: but they escape its domain. they are the for fed by the against, the against doing so far as to identify itself with the for.”

    • Right on.
      Crossing the Threshold, and many other things JPII said or wrote, were full of straight-up contradictions — not paradoxes.
      Just the small selection given by Tom has multiple examples of such or similar nonsense. For example:

      “the synagogues and mosques, where those who worship the One God assemble. ”
      They DON’T worship the One God, you fool! By the very meaning of the terms, there is only *one* One God. That God is the Holy Trinity, which the synagogue and Islam assuredly don’t worship. What they worship is a chimera invented by their own perverted imaginations.
      How can there be one “One God” that is both a Talmudic monopersonal god, AND a different Islamic monopersonal god — at the same time? And let’s not forget that the *real* One God is something different yet; a Trinity of three Persons. Yet Nostra Aetate, which JPII endorses, wants to pretend that this Trinity is *also* the same “One God” of the Talmud and of Islam. There is no possible paradox that explains this, it’s just full-on three-way violation of the principle of non-contradiction.

      “As a result of their monotheism, believers in Allah are particularly close to us.”
      So how does that work? JPII identifies mere numerical similarity as the essential similarity. By that stupidity, if someone believes that there is one god, and that god is SATAN, a Satanist is closer to Catholicism than, say, a Hindu.

      The Un-Saint JPII was not merely a tremendous fool, he was literally a madman. All we can do is hope that his insanity excused him from his many, many objective mortal sins of idolatry and blasphemy.

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