MSNBC et Chris(t) Mathews Locuta Est, Causa Finita Est

MSNBC et Chris(t) Mathews Locuta Est, Causa Finita Est

[Matthews further pontificates:]

So was just on MSNBC saying Fr. Leonard Feeney “invented” Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus. This was during an interview about his work as an “historian”.

Friday, November 10, 2017

Edit: Doncha just love it when people who are Catholic purely for social and cultural reasons suddenly remember they’re Catholic and declare themselves as experts in all things Catholic when there’s an axe to grind?

[] Chris Matthews has just published a book on Robert Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy: A Raging Spirit (Simon & Schuster), which he is promoting vigorously. Among the numerous interviews he has given (many to his colleagues at MSNBC), the one with Al Sharpton, embedded below, has come to our attention for its mention of Father Leonard Feeney.
Around the 6:14 mark, Matthews makes a fleeting mention of Father Feeney as an example of someone that had, early on, roused “raging spirit” of Bobby Kennedy.
The mention of Father Feeney is limited to these words, which I have transcribed as faithfully as possible:
When that priest, Father Feeney, in the 40’s… late 40’s… was saying “no salvation outside the Catholic Church, everybody else is going to hell,” Bobby wrote a letter to the paper, fought the … fought the Cardinal over it. His mother thought he was going to get excommunicated over it, and then the priest got excommunicated.

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2 comments on “MSNBC et Chris(t) Mathews Locuta Est, Causa Finita Est

  1. [On a related matter]


    Unbaptized Babies

    Please watch this video. Yes, Pope St John Paul II did say that we may entertain a “hope” that these children would be admitted into heaven. However, “hope” is not “certitude”. This is a topic of concern for me, as I am in front of abortuaries most Saturday mornings to persuade the mothers to give life to their children – and a chance for them to be baptized.

    I have seen pro-lifers commit serious errors along these lines. The first is the presumption that aborted babies will automatically participate in the Beatific Vision. Some have even opined that we on the sidewalks need not make these babies the primary objects of our concern, but to do that for those participating in the abortion. That is irresponsible hogwash. The adults who are participating in the abortion have the ability to repent. The unborn child is completely dependent on others for his/her entrance to heaven. The babies will get first dibs on my efforts.

    The second error is one from an opposite perspective. Here the pro-lifers understand the need for the babes to be baptized, but also lament that they cannot perform the baptism themselves. So they have concocted a parody of baptism, believing or wishing it to be efficacious. That is, they kneel and pray in the direction of the mill. They perform the baptism ritual and sprinkle holy water in the direction of the slaughter house. Best wishes and motives aside, that is NOT a valid baptism. The water must come into physical contact with the child’s body in order for the sacrament to be valid. Remember: matter, form, intention. All must be present and in good order for the sacrament to be valid.

  2. The theological concept precedes the era of Fr. Leonard Feeney in Massachusetts by quite a few centuries. Like, around seventeen and a half, give or take a few decades:

    extra Ecclesiam nulla salus

    “This expression comes from the writings of Saint Cyprian of Carthage, a bishop of the 3rd century.”

    “The Catholic Church also teaches that the doctrine does not mean that everyone who is not visibly within the Church is necessarily damned in case of inculpable ignorance.”

    “Some of the most pertinent Catholic expressions of this doctrine are: the profession of faith of Pope Innocent III (1208), the profession of faith of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), the bull Unam sanctam of Pope Boniface VIII (1302), and the profession of faith of the Council of Florence (1442). The axiom “No salvation outside the Church” has been frequently repeated over the centuries in different terms by the ordinary magisterium.”

    “The original phrase, “Salus extra ecclesiam non est” (“there is no salvation out of the Church”) comes from Letter LXXII of Cyprian of Carthage (d. 258). The letter was written in reference to a particular controversy as to whether or not it was necessary to baptize applicants who had previously been baptized by heretics. In Ad Jubajanum de haereticis baptizandis, Cyprian tells Jubaianus of his conviction that baptism conferred by heretics is not valid.[5] Firmilian (died c. 269) agreed with Cyprian reasoning that those who are outside the Church and have not the Holy Spirit cannot admit others to the Church or give what they do not possess.”


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