“The Ruini Report”: If Only It Were a Joke; The Anti-Fatima Apparition Gains Ground

“The Ruini Report”: If Only It Were a Joke; The Anti-Fatima Apparition Gains Ground

[Hat-tip to Canon212: “Dear Cd. Ruini, The Mother of God does not appear to people whom She would certainly foresee would perpetrate a decades-long fraud on the Church and the world in Her name”]

by Christopher A. Ferrara
May 18, 2017

The findings of the long-awaited “Ruini Report” of the Ruini Commission (named after its chairman, Cardinal Camillo Ruini), concerning the validity of the so-called Marian apparitions at Medjugorje that have supposedly been going on since 1981, have now been revealed. The result of the Commission’s labors, which began during the reign of Benedict XVI, is just what one would expect in the post-conciliar epoch: a refusal to state clearly that a proposition concerning the Faith is simply true or false, right or wrong.

This ridiculous report “splits the difference” between a declaration that the apparitions alleged by the six Medjugorje “seers” are not supernatural in origin and thus a fake, and a declaration — like those pertaining to Fatima — that the apparitions are of supernatural origin and thus worthy of belief. In other words: the apparitions are both true and false, depending on which ones you examine! If only it were a joke.

Catholic News Agency provides an overview of this preposterous approach: the first seven “apparitions,” allegedly occurring between June 24 and July 3, 1981, drew “13 votes in favor of recognizing the supernatural nature of the first visions. A member voted against and an expert expressed a suspensive vote….”

What about the thousands of apparitions thereafter, which allegedly continue to this day at pre-announced times even though the “visionaries” said they would end, and which are filled with repetition, banalities and statements by “the Virgin” positively contrary to the Faith? For example, in one apparition “the Virgin” states: “Before God all the faiths are identical. God governs them like a king in his kingdom.”

Here the Commission adopted an utterly absurd two-step analysis that allowed it to avoid declaring the whole Medjugorje event a fake:

“On this second stage, the committee voted in two steps. Firstly, taking into account the spiritual fruits of Medjugorje but leaving aside the behaviors of the seers. On this point, 3 members and 3 experts say there are positive outcomes, 4 members and 3 experts say they are mixed, with a majority of positive effects, and the remaining 3 experts claim there are mixed positive and negative effects.

“If, in addition to the spiritual fruits, the behaviors of the seers is also taken into account, eight members and four experts believe that an opinion cannot be expressed, while two other members have voted against the supernatural nature of the phenomenon.”

So, when the analysis considers the behavior of the “visionaries,” the credibility of their supposed visions diminishes and no consensus even on “good fruits” emerges, although only two commission members are willing to state outright the obvious conclusion that the apparitions are not supernatural and thus are fakes. Yet these same “visionaries” are deemed credible respecting the first seven apparitions by 13 members of this laughable commission of hair-splitters.

In essence, the Commission (except for two members) has decided that the “visionaries” were telling the truth regarding the first seven “apparitions” but that, since then, they have been conducting the longest running fraud in the history of Marian apparitions, concerning which the Commission labors to avoid expressing the truth openly. And these six fraudsters are supposedly the chosen messengers of the Mother of God.

If only it were a joke. Well, it is a joke, but the Vatican is evidently going to take this report seriously despite the objections expressed by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which will be ignored just as surely as they were respecting Amoris Laetitia. As Pope Bergoglio remarked concerning the Commission’s “split-decision” during the return flight to Rome after his visit to Fatima: “At the end of 2013 or the beginning of 2014, I received the results from Cardinal Ruini. The commission was made up of good theologians, bishops and cardinals. Good, good, good people. The Ruini report is very, very good.”

What is “very, very good” according to Pope Bergoglio is the Commission’s bogus distinction between “the first apparitions, “when [the ‘seers’] were young” and “the alleged current apparitions” in which the Virgin is depicted as “a telegraph operator who sends out a message every day at a certain time… this is not the mother of Jesus.” Indeed, it is not. Nor could it have been in 1981, for the Mother of God does not appear to people whom She would certainly foresee would perpetrate a decades-long fraud on the Church and the world in Her name.

Curiously, the same Pope Bergoglio who belittles what he views as the hairsplitting of theologians on matters as fundamental as the Real Presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist, suddenly finds merit in the hairsplitting of this absurd theological commission respecting the manifest fakery of the Medjugorje apparitions. But then Pope Bergoglio has never failed to be consistent in his inconsistency.

And so, the anti-Fatima apparition gains ground, while the Message of Fatima is reduced by the Pope himself to a prescription for social justice and peace among people of all religions or no religion at all. What an insult to the Virgin Mother of God, Whose warning to the Church and all of humanity at Fatima continues to be spurned by the blind guides of the upper hierarchy, who march triumphantly toward the edge of the abyss into which they would lead the rest of us.

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3 comments on ““The Ruini Report”: If Only It Were a Joke; The Anti-Fatima Apparition Gains Ground

  1. [An example of the Medjumaniacs coming out of the woodwork – from and by Spirit Daily]

    Seven Apparitions Okayed By Commission Would Put Medjugorje In Top Ranks

    May 14, 2017

    Pope Francis and President Donald J. Trump, who are scheduled to meet soon at the Vatican, share certain striking characteristics despite coming from opposite sides of the cultural and societal spectrum.

    Image result for pope medjugorjeBoth come forth as “plain-speaking” leaders, in the tradition of Harry Truman, representing, in lingo, the “common man”; both are bold, unafraid to take a controversial, even very controversial, stance; and both speak quite offhandedly, brusquely, candidly, and sometimes discordantly, with frequent lacunae, governing in a “stream-of-consciousness” fashion (Trump with his “tweets,” the Pope during press conferences aboard his plane).

    The result, while often consternation — confusion — nonetheless makes both fascinating. Throw in too “unpredictability.”

    Most recently, returning from Fatima, aboard that plane, the Holy Father expressed both belief and doubt when it came to the famous apparition site of Medjugorje — though he clarified this much: while the early apparitions are worthy of serious consideration, he does not believe or at least doubts in the validity of current ones (repeating his oft-used line — twice on planes, and once during a talk at St. Marta’s House at the Vatican — that the Blessed Mother is not like a “postmistress” or “telegrapher,” appearing each day at a scheduled time to deliver a message to a seer. Three of the original six visionaries still claim to see her each day).

    Camillo Ruini wwwitjosemariaescrivainfoimagea0423ruinijpgThe matter was recently studied by a commission headed by Cardinal Camillo Ruini of Italy (and originally convened by Benedict XVI), which concluded it “credible” that at the least the first seven days of the apparitions were supernatural (a 13-to-one vote, with one abstaining), while divided among themselves about the many hundreds of apparitions since that first week in 1981.

    This was huge news: though one can quibble over current apparitions (the commission was split on these), a very substantial and thorough panel is saying, according to a leaked version, that in 1981, the Virgin Mary indeed did visit those children, at least for that first week — seven appearances.

    The commission did not make a definitive judgment (this can only be done by the Pontiff), but simply put, in its judgment, after four years of intense study: yes, Mary did appear in Bosnia-Hercegovina.

    Will there be further controversy? Almost certainly. But if the Pope accepts that finding, as it appears he does (he called the study “very, very good”), it immediately catapults Medjugorje into the very top tier of historic apparitions. (There is still that big “if.”)

    Seven days means at least seven apparitions accepted by the commission — enthralling in that, even if this were one day to be the final and only Vatican determination, just the first week, it would compare in frequency with other famous apparitions.

    At Fatima, there were six appearances of the Blessed Mother. At Guadalupe, there were five, at Knock there was one, at Betania there was one accepted, at the Miraculous Medal two, at Banneux eight, at Beauraing twenty-seven, at LaSalette just one, in Wisconsin two. At Lourdes, eighteen were officially authorized — though at many approved sites, the apparitions went beyond the official ones.

    Notre-Dame du Laus (Pindreau – 2).JPGIt is as if the commission will abide by a time-honored template, but nothing beyond that: a few apparitions over a finite period, to a restricted number of seers, preferably one, which is more manageable — although at Laus in France, which took more than two centuries to win approval (in 2008), there were hundreds of apparitions, and many too at Kibeho in Rwanda and San Nicolás in Argentina.

    Of note in this regard: only three of the seven main initial seers at Kibeho were accepted.

    This may also occur at Medjugorje: some visionaries officially allowed, others not. More probably, the limit, as in the study, will be on the number of appearances, as also occurred recently with apparitions at Itaparinga in Brazil and in fact places like Fatima, where the seers all had mystical experiences beyond the original, official ones. Since 1981, there have been thousands of alleged visitations. And criticisms about “behavior” (as the report phrased it). Although, in the first years, at least two of them had interests in life as religious, none ended up a priest or nun, unlike major sites such as Fatima, Lourdes, and Kibeho itself (where one of the three official seers entered a cloister in Rome, while a second was killed during the Rwandan genocide).

    Interesting — riveting — questions thus arise. For instance: were any secrets given during the first ten days? It doesn’t seem so. But we can’t be certain. If they weren’t, they are in the commission’s no-decision category — a sort of “suspense account,” which makes sense, in that the Church never rules on apparitions with secrets until the prophecies are played out. It remains, as always, a matter for our discernment.

    Also of note: the panel said in those first few days, there were actually seven — not just six — seers, counting Marija Pavlovic’s sister, who saw Mary just once. (There actually may have been others who witnessed her as well. See below also for first week of messages.)

    Another question: Was Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller [below], very powerful as prefect of the Congregation charged with overseeing doctrine and mysticism, opposed to what the commission had to say?

    It was Cardinal Müller (no relation to the new special prosecutor in Washington) who halted first a Medjugorje seer living in the Boston area from public apparitions in churches (followed by a broadened order on others, actions first reported here).

    This powerful Vatican official also reversed an archbishop’s approval of apparitions in Lipa, Philippines, much to the dismay of the bishop (see our interview with him here), and recently stopped any further public messages from San Nicolás, despite its formal approval. Cardinal Müller likes to emphasize that apparitions are not necessary to the Faith and may vigorously have attempted to affect response to the commission’s presentation — explaining otherwise confusing remarks from the Pope, who mentioned an “auction” of the study [see text of the plane comments below].

    Said the Pope [photo of him at the top from the Religion News Service] — in answer to a question posed aboard the plane returning from Fatima:

    “The relation Ruini affirms that it is necessary to distinguish the first apparitions, when the visionaries were small and says that it is necessary to continue investigating those. Regarding the presumed present appearances, the relationship presents its doubts.

    “I personally am more evil [also translated as “worse” or “naughty”], I prefer the Virgin Mother than the Virgin who becomes in charge of a telegraph office and sends a message every day. And these alleged appearances are not so valuable: I follow this as personal opinion. There are those who think that the Virgin says: ‘Come, on such a day, at such an hour, I am going to give a message to that seer.’

    “Then, third point, is the spiritual and pastoral fact, the knot of the relationship: people who become, who find God, who changes their lives. And this not thanks to a magic wand. This fact can not be denied.” [Further texts of his remarks, below.]

    The current Pope’s view of Medjugorje may derive from his time as archbishop in Buenos Aires and the appearance there of one of the visionaries who has traveled extensively presenting daily apparitions, especially in the United States, where Müller stopped him.

    As mentioned, three of the visionaries still claim to see her daily, while daily apparitions to the other three halted a while ago — one as long ago as 1981.

    There are various versions — translations — of the papal remarks, with few in the “mainstream” Catholic media presenting the positive remarks by the Pope (as far as the early apparitions), only the doubtful ones.

    Image result for Polish Archbishop Henryk Hoser,The Pope’s comments contrasted, to a noticeable degree, with those of Polish Archbishop Henryk Hoser, who the Pope appointed to serve as apostolic envoy or administrator at Medjugorje, and who spoke in a more positive way of the enormous “fruits” from the site, especially its more than forty confessionals, its countless conversions, especially among young, and the hundreds of priestly vocations it has produced.

    At a time of such a crisis in vocations, and with Church attendance badly waning, one might interpret this as welcome “produce” (the church at Medjugorje, St. James, unlike those in the rationalistic West, is always full to overflowing). “My friends, you should be carriers of joyful news,” Archbishop Hoser said after a week there. “And you can say to the whole world that in Medjugorje, there is a light… we need these spots of light in today’s world that is going down into darkness.”

    Visiting Medjugorje makes all the difference in the world. The Polish archbishop had previously said: “If Marian devotion has flourished in Medjugorje, if such multitudes arrive there, it is therefore a place where veneration will continue, since Our Lady can be venerated everywhere, especially in those locations where this veneration is so fruitful, as we hear it has been from so many testimonies.” He will deliver a final report on the pastoral approach to Medjugorje at the end of June. He told an Italian newspaper this week that he had seen nothing at the site that was imaginative or deviating but instead prayer, recollection, and “great spiritual fervor.”

    John Paul II on 12 August 1993 in Denver, ColoradoA fellow Pole, Karol Józef Wojtyła, who became Saint John Paul II, was a strong backer of the apparitions, though, like the current Pope, he had not visited.

    Pope Benedict XVI — who did visit Medjugorje, as prefect for the Congregation on the Doctrine of the Faith — never indicated publicly how he stood on the matter and scrupulously avoided comment. (It was Benedict who convened the current panel.)

    If it is approved, will only several or even just a couple of the Medugorje seers be accepted in the end?

    While it’s doubtful the Vatican will ever condemn the apparitions, it most probably will institute it as a shrine with the now-established oversight. One suggestion: serious theologians, clergy, and journalists visit before coming to conclusions. Such research is basic and invaluable.

  2. [From the highest-ranking open Medjumaniac (I say “open,” because other Medjumaniacs say that one or more recent popes are “closeted” ones who privately supported/encouraged it and either went there in cognito or wanted to do so); hat-tip to and Google translation by Canon212: “Longtime patron of MedjugorjeLand, Cd. Schonborn, delivers yet another performance”]

    19 May 2017

    Schönborn: Many things happen in Medjugorje

    Vienna (kath.net/KAP) Cardinal Christoph Schönborn has described Medjugorje as a “good tree that brings many good fruits”. The “real miracle” of the Bosnian place of pilgrimage is that it provides a “message of peace and prayer” and “both our world needs today”, explained the Viennese archbishop in the free newspaper “Heute” (Friday). Schönborn is one of the many bishops in the world who have been pilgrims in Medjugorje and who have expressed their opinions about the place of pilgrimage.

    The once unknown Medjugorje, with its 2.5 million visitors a year, had been controversial from the beginning of the Marian publications, Schönborn admitted. Many questions have been raised, including: “Were the real marriages, especially, is it true that they continue to this day?” Can Mary keep appearing and giving messages for 36 years, and what does the Church say?

    In his weekly “Today” column, the Cardinal confirmed the culminated outcome of the election of Pope Benedict XVI in 2010. Commission on Medjugorje. “It is a fact that Medjugorje has now become a place of grace for countless people.”

    For it was safe and no one could deny that “much good” had happened in Medjugorje, Schönborn continued. “People find their way to faith, reconciliations, cures, and so many people are not confessed in any place in Europe, and there are strong social works that have sprung up through Medjugorje.”

  3. Tom, a Catholic Pope (remember those?) could order air strikes on that village, order the arrest of every fake visionary and all their affluent partners, buy an hour of time on all major Western TV networks and explain in exquisite detail why the fraud is a hoax and the Medj-addicts would, in a heartbeat, spin it as “Vatican Still Inquiring Into the Matter. Stay Tuned!”

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