A Protestant Mass

A Protestant Mass

Is there really a need for such?

Archbishop Annibale Bugnini, the chief architect of the Novus Ordo Mass, said in 1965:

We must strip from our Catholic prayers and from the Catholic liturgy everything which can be the shadow of a stumbling block for our separated brethren—that is, for the Protestants.

Jean Guitton, a French philosopher and close friend of Pope Paul VI, says in his book The Pope Speaks: Dialogues of Paul VI with Jean Guitton:

The intention of Paul VI with regard to what is commonly called the [Novus Ordo] Mass, was to reform the Catholic liturgy in such a way that it should almost coincide with the Protestant liturgy — but what is curious is that Paul VI did that to get as close as possible to the Protestant Lord’s Supper … there was with Paul VI an ecumenical intention to remove, or least to correct, or at least to relax, what was too Catholic, in the traditional sense, in the Mass and, I repeat, to get the Catholic Mass closer to the Calvinist Mass.

Also, Michael Davies, the Welsh critic of the post-Vatican II liturgy, cites in his book Pope Paul’s New Mass many Protestant theologians and pastors praising the Novus Ordo Mass for its “ecumenical” dimensions and having no qualms in using it (although only with the Second Eucharistic Prayer).

From Gloria.TV News on the 13th of February 2017

The Italian blog “Anonimi della Croce” cites a confidential source in Santa Marta according to which Pope Francis envisages changes in the New Rite Eucharist which serve a single goal: ecumenism. Francis plans to create a Eucharistic liturgy that could be celebrated with the Protestants. The source claims that the deal is practically done.

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5 comments on “A Protestant Mass

  1. I probably will start going to the SSPX MASS . I have read as much as my small brain will allow and to me it is perfectly valid along with the Sacraments ! I have often said that Archbishop Lefebve saved the Catholic Church and many of my priest friends agreed. Without creating any ruckus on this web site , I would appreciate any suggestions pro or con on this choice. Thank You !

    • The proposed “Protestant” (or rather, “ecumenical”) Mass is one of several rumors currently swirling around Rome (along with that of Cardinal Muller quitting or being fired as Prefect of the Doctrinal Congregation or of Cardinal Burke “clearing his calendar” for something unexpected.

      In view of the quotes in my above comment, I regard the proposal as redundant.

      • From just 4 years ago: What Bishop Fellay really said about New Mass
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        What Bishop Fellay really said to Cardinal Canizares about the New Mass

        Originally published on sspx.org on January 21, 2013.

        Cardinal Antonio Canizares, the Prefect for the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, stated to the press on January 15th:

        On one occasion, Bishop (Bernard) Fellay, who is the leader of the Society of St. Pius X, came to see me and said, “We just came from an abbey that is near Florence. If Archbishop (Marcel) Lefebvre had seen how they celebrated there, he would not have taken the step that he did”… The missal used at that celebration was the Paul VI Missal in its strictest form.”[1]
        Bishop Fellay has kindly given sspx.org this clarification of what he actually said, and the context of his words, concerning the Novus Ordo Missae.

        Bishop Fellay clarifies…
        As very often in such circumstances, a phrase has been interpreted badly: I was describing to Cardinal Canizares (and this was some five or six years ago) that the abuses in the liturgy have caused a major reaction amongst us. And this is still the case today, in the sense that the abuses and sacrileges in the sacred liturgy have helped the faithful and even priests to quickly and more fully understand the profound defects and danger of the Novus Ordo—because there is a link between the New Mass and the abuses. The abuses have helped to prove that our position is the right one: that is, the New Mass is not good in itself.

        But this said, from the beginning and before the abuses took place, Archbishop Lefebvre had already refused to celebrate the Novus Ordo Missae. Because the serious omissions and the whole [conciliar] reform, done in an ecumenical spirit, gives it a Protestant savor. The New Mass puts at risk the Catholic Faith and the numerous examples of faithful and priests who have lost the Faith directly linked with the celebration of the Novus Ordo are quite blatant. Nevertheless for a while—and until these new damaging effects were clearly recognized—Archbishop Lefebvre did not strictly prohibit attendance at the New Mass. It was only after a few years that he prohibited the seminarians from going to the New Mass while on their holiday’s vacations.


        1 As reported by Rome Reports on January 16, 2013 in an article entitled, “Cardinal Canizares: The most urgent reform is liturgical formation”.


  2. For reasons that await full explanation, some neo-Catholics have difficulty facing up to the fact that the modernist Spirit of Vatican II and its dissembling liturgical circus are largely a movement of infiltration by liberal homosexuals pretending to be priests, Illuminati initiates, and members of anti-Catholic secret societies hell-bent on using the bureaucratic structures and institutions of the Church to promote Situation Ethics, climate change hysteria, Malthusian population control, and global socialism, as if such a cocktail could be passed off as the Catholic faith. That the Novus Ordo is the Frankenstein creation of a masonic agent and a flamboyant homosexual modernist doesn’t help their absurd narrative about opening the windows of the Church to all of the fresh air of the modern world.

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