Gmptrad; is it another case of I told you so, or a case, I have always wanted to be the one who told you, I told you so? – Either way, I hate to disappoint you again.
I think we have been through this several times here. Same old, “SSPX is going to sell out” – Please give us a break. If the SSPX wanted to sell out it would have done so long ago. If it wanted to sell out, what is it waiting for? Permission from Gmptrad and co?
Gmptrad – Once more, you seem make a mountain out of nothing. – It is clear that what Bp. Fellay has said needs to be understood in the context. What context, the context of the entire history of the SSPX and it’s struggle with the conciliar novelties.
The words of Bp. Fellay, once more are nothing more than what the SSPX has always said, the obstacle has never been on the side of the SSPX. The obstacle is on the side of the unjust Conciliar authorities. The Archbishop never welcome or accepted the unjust penalties imposed upon him and the Society. To say that the unjust penalties imposed upon the SSPX are a good thing is to call evil good. That is absurd. The penalties of the Church are to be used against the wicked not against the just ! The reinstatement of the SSPX is simply a question of justice, just as it was simply a question of basic just for Pope Benedict to give a reinstatement for the the tridentine rite of the Liturgy.
The Gmptrad view some how erroneously tries to presume that the SSPX is not already subject to the Roman Pontiff (in all things lawful); and that the crisis in the Church gives everyone or anyone a right to do as they please. This position is not Catholic. Hence all the home aloners, Self Pontificating (self appoint Popes – i.e Sedevacantists), independant vagabonds etc. While I don’t cast judgment on their intentions, all these self appointed, I will do it my way Catholics are not helping the situation in the Church.
While no one is trying to say that the Conciliar authorities have a right to impose error, etc, no by all means Catholics clearly have both a right and duty (given them by God and His Church) to resist, denounce and out rightly reject error in any form and regardless from whom it may come (this includes the Roman Pontiff), for all Catholics, are subject to the same truths regardless of their official position.
Yet, one can not claim to be a Catholic without his subjection to the Roman Pontiff, this is a Catholic doctrine not up for negotiation.
“To be Christian, one must be Roman, governed by Christ’s Vicar on earth. The Church does not rest on Christ alone, but also on Peter. That Christ and His Vicar constitute only one single Head is solemn teaching. Therefore, those who think they can accept Christ as the Head of the Church without adhering faithfully to His Vicar on earth are in dangerous error.” – Mystici Corporis, Pope Pius XI Papal Teachings – The Church, St Paul Editions,
The SSPX simply continues to await it’s approval on solid grounds that will grant it not be expect to accept the erroneous conciliar doctrines or liturgy and that it would have protection from the conciliar bishop who would see to hinder it in its work for souls; as this is not simply a question of the SSPX getting its way, but simply a clear case of a necessity for the faith, the faith which the great number of the (apostate) conciliar bishops have abandoned. –
No one can in any stage in the history of the Church simply say that good Catholics could not work within the official frame work of the Church until things were complete back on track or good in that structure before they would accept subjection to the lawful authorities of the Church. That position itself is totally erroneous. Just read the life of St. Augustine, St. Athanasius etc.
St. Augustine expressed this point so well himself : “The wicked in the Church – either unknown or tolerated by the good for the sake of the unity of peace – cannot harm the goods who do not consent to them unto evil.” – Breviculus Collationis cum Donatistas, I:10