Vatican Approves ‘Transitory’ Gay Seminarians

Vatican Approves ‘Transitory’ Gay Seminarians

Relaxes ban on seminarians with “uncertain sexual identity”

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An informative article, but once more CM overlooks the 800-lb. elephant in the Vatican …

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… who approved the new guidelines and has previously said:

When I meet a gay person, I have to distinguish between their being gay and being part of a lobby [or movement]. If they accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them? They shouldn’t be marginalized. The tendency [to homosexuality] is not the problem … they’re our brothers.

I’m constantly making statements …. That’s magisterium.

by Bradley Eli, M.Div., Ma.Th. • ChurchMilitant • December 8, 2016

VATICAN – The Vatican’s new guidelines for seminarians is relaxing the rules on men with homosexual tendencies. While continuing to exclude from the seminary men with “deep-seated homosexual tendencies,” the new guidelines now allow in seminaries men with a “transitory problem” of “homosexual tendencies.”

The document, titled “The Gift of the Priestly Vocation,” was promulgated Thursday, December 8, by the Congregation for the Clergy. Paragraphs 199–200 reads,

[T]he Church … cannot admit to the seminary or to holy orders those who practice homosexuality, present deep-seated homosexual tendencies or support the so-called ‘gay culture.’ … Different, however, would be the case in which one were dealing with homosexual tendencies that were only the expression of a transitory problem — for example, that of an adolescence not yet superseded. … [S]uch tendencies must be clearly overcome at least three years before ordination to the diaconate.

While the above quote is in keeping verbatim with a 2005 instruction from the Congregation for Catholic Education, it nevertheless contradicts the updated and more restrictive guidelines put out in 2008 by the same congregation titled “Guidelines for the use of Psychology in the Admission and Formation of Candidates for the Priesthood.”

The 2008 guidelines direct seminaries to dismiss men who have not only “deep-seated homosexual tendencies” but also an “uncertain sexual identity.” Of this latter group, the 2008 guidelines say their “path of formation will have to be interrupted.”

But this isn’t the case in the current manual on seminary formation just promulgated by the Congregation for the Clergy, which leaves such men in the seminary to work out their “transitory problem.” Paragraph 200 of the manual says of these men, “Nevertheless, such tendencies must be clearly overcome at least three years before ordination to the diaconate.”

The 2008 document, on the other hand, spoke of psychological deficiencies in seminarians, pointing out, “Such immaturity would include … uncertain sexual identity; deep-seated homosexual tendencies; etc. If this should be the case, the path of formation will have to be interrupted.”

It went on to list problems that “block the vocational journey,” which include “a sexual identity that is confused or not yet well defined.”

It also didn’t allow conflicted seminarians to stay in formation to work out their psychological difficulties. “If it should be ascertained that the candidate needs therapy, this therapy should be carried out before he is admitted to the seminary or house of formation.”

The Vatican emphasized in 2005 the dangers associated with ordaining homosexual men. Rome emphatically warned: “One must in no way overlook the negative consequences that can derive from the ordination of persons with deep-seated homosexual tendencies.”

To see the danger one needs only look at the sex abuse scandal that has plagued the Church. According to official reports, the “pedophile scandal was really of homosexual scandal where approximately 80 percent of the victims were post-pubescent males.

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4 comments on “Vatican Approves ‘Transitory’ Gay Seminarians

  1. I followed the link to the source of this article – Church Militant – and followed down to the comment section on their website.
    It was interesting to see people waking up to the fact that there is a real crisis in the Church and that much of this crisis is emanating from Rome. Comment after comment despaired about what is going on in Rome – yet only one even mentioned Pope Francis, and even then held back from actually attributing any of the blame to him.

    What will it take to wake the Church Militant crowd up to the reality that the present Pope is a major part of the problem?

    • I believe the vast majority already know the Vatican (Francis et al) is part of the problem. The head of the family always bears responsibility, just as the head of a corporation although, too often, they come out unscathed as others take the hit for fallout.

      But the CM crowd, much like the followers of other blogs who fancy themselves as informing the masses, have trained their particular sheep to not speak or to not speak too clearly for fear of banning, public shaming, and other posture-taking measures to ensure that they – the ‘news’ source – is viewed as the new authority. Its rather sickening.

      People are cowed and deprived of the one thing that God gave them to address times/problems such as these; intellect and will. Use your intellect to root cause and you WILL be banned or shouted down by the powers-that-be who will consider you nothing but a handy example to demonstrate their particular policy. That is the policy that makes “them” feel comfortable for the moment.



  2. Kwai Chang: How many boys may a novice kiss and still become a master?

    Master Po: The answer, my Grasshopper, is blowin’ in the Vatican wind.



  3. Subterranean Septic Blues

    Burke’s got purity
    writing up the dubia
    Jorge’s gone septic
    thinking coprophilia
    Fags in the seminary
    Don’t ask, don’t budge
    Jorge isn’t gonna judge
    Look out kid
    keep your backside hid
    It’s hard to have hope
    when we’ve got a gutter minded pope

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