Traditional San Diego priest in hot water with local Democratic Party and modernist bishop over election advice

[Traditional] San Diego priest in hot water [with local Democratic Party and modernist bishop] over election advice

Head of San Diego County Democrats: “clearly this was something that the diocese would never ever approve”

[Fr. Perozich silenced, but bishop’s mouthpiece says, “It’s not a mortal sin to vote for Democrats, number one. And number two, the church doesn’t take positions on this,” although in 2004 then-Cardinal Ratzinger as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith wrote a letter forbidding Catholics from voting for pro-abortion politicians]

NOVEMBER 3, 2016 BY CAL-CATHOLIC ADMIN

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Immaculate Conception Catholic Church, San Diego (photo from inetours.com)

The following comes from a November 2 San Diego Union Tribune article by Joshua Stewart:

Between requests for prayers for the sick and a notice for an upcoming chastity luncheon, a newsletter from a Catholic church in Old Town that doubles as an election-day polling site included a flier that told parishioners they’ll go to hell if they vote for Democrats.

Two Sundays later, the message had changed: Satan was working through former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

The Oct. 16 bulletin from the Immaculate Conception Catholic Church was stuffed with a flyer written in both English and Spanish that cited five legislative policies — support for abortion, same-sex marriage, euthanasia, human cloning, and embryonic stem cell research — that will doom a politician and their supporters to eternal damnation.

“It is a mortal sin to vote Democrat … immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell,” the flyer said. It cited the five public policy issues from the “Voters Guide for Serious Catholics” and said that Democrats violate each of them, while Republicans cross none.

The Roman Catholic Diocese of San Diego on Wednesday said the messages in the flier and bulletin do not reflect Catholic teaching or diocese policies, are inappropriate, and that voters should use their conscience to determine which candidates to support.

“It’s not a mortal sin to vote for Democrats, number one. And number two, the church doesn’t take positions on this, and we’re not going to,” diocese spokesman Kevin Eckery said.

In a speech Tuesday [see comment below] at the Center for Catholic Thought and Culture at the University of San Diego, Bishop Robert McElroy stressed the importance both for his faith and for the country of religious leaders like himself staying out of candidate elections.

“I speak to you tonight as a bishop who is part of a long tradition in Catholic episcopal leadership in the United States which holds that both the Church and society are best served when bishops refrain from publicly endorsing or favoring, either directly or indirectly, specific candidates in partisan elections,” a transcript of his address says.

The diocese said the flier was not authorized by the parish, but it was somehow inserted into the Oct. 16 bulletin.

“For all I know someone thought that they were doing a service,” by putting it into the bulletin, Eckery said. “The pastor said it was not something he had reviewed or approved.”

In his homily three weeks before the flier appeared in bulletins the church’s pastor, the Rev. Richard Perozich, discussed those same five points from the flier and how they’re relevant in this upcoming election but didn’t mention political parties, candidates, or damnation.

“In the church, we have what we call the five non-negotiables, things that are most important, and they’re around life issues. There’s life, from conception to natural death. There’s marriage and sexuality, embryonic stem cell research, cloning and euthanasia. When we vote, we don’t vote for candidates who support these things, even if they support other things that we really like,” said Perozich, according to a recording of the Sept. 25 homily posted on the church’s website.
Eckery said Perozich was not available for comment.

Francine Busby, the head of San Diego County Democrats, said she saw the flier and thought it was absurd to the point it didn’t seem like something the faith she grew up in would publish.

“My initial reaction was that this was extreme and completely over the top in the accusations,” she said. “I thought it was important to bring it to the attention to the diocese, just as a friend. I know that they didn’t mean it. … Clearly this was something that the diocese would never ever approve.”

The Clinton-as-Satan comment was in an article from the Oct. 30 bulletin headlined “Voting Catholic” that discusses contemporary issues that Catholics have long stood against like abortion and same-sex marriage, plus ones that Eckery said are not a part of Catholic teachings and out of line with diocesan policy.

The article, which was written in the bulletin and not an insert, listed 10 “sins” that have “enslaved” American society created by politicians, judges and the voters who support them.

Besides long-standing matters the church has opposed, it also spoke against the “importation of immigrants whose religious values are to eradicate every belief except those of their own prophet and god, and to impose this on America” and public assistance for immigrants adding to the public debt “while paying Americans to sit home and not work.” The article also criticized “regulating the right to bear arms for free citizens in a nation where criminals and terrorists will always have weapons, and where government is now in opposition to the citizens.”

The article goes on to criticize clergy and politicians who think Christians who are concerned about these issues are homophobic or Islamophobic. “We are called by politicians such as Hillary Clinton, deplorables,” it said.

This article does not reflect the Catholic church’s stance, Eckery said.

“There’s no Catholic teaching to national debt, there’s no Catholic teaching on the Second Amendment. Those are civil issues, not Catholic issues,” he said. “It doesn’t reflect official church teaching. We’re a welcoming church, welcoming to immigrants.”

Eckery said the article came from within the parish, but it’s not clear who the author was, or who approved it for the bulletin.

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9 comments on “Traditional San Diego priest in hot water with local Democratic Party and modernist bishop over election advice

  1. San Diego Bishop McElroy delivers lecture on upcoming election

    We can’t tell you who to vote for – even if one candidate supports killing babies[!?]

    NOVEMBER 3, 2016 BY CAL-CATHOLIC ADMIN

    The following comes from remarks by Bishop Robert McElroy at University of San Diego on November 1, on the San Diego Diocese website:

    The contrast between the beautiful vision of politics that Pope Francis presented while speaking to a joint session of Congress last year and the political campaigns that have unfolded in recent months could not be more heartbreaking.
    I speak to you tonight as a bishop who is part of a long tradition in Catholic episcopal leadership in the United States which holds that both the Church and society are best served when bishops refrain from publicly endorsing or favoring, either directly or indirectly, specific candidates in partisan elections. This tradition stretches back to John Carroll, the first bishop in the United States. It is reflected in the consistent practice of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops which issues its moral principles for guidance in presidential elections a full year before the elections itself, so as to ensure that the bishops will not be seen as tailoring their teachings to favor particular candidates.
    It is sometimes said that this tradition of neutrality in partisan elections springs from the tax status of the Church, or from a desire to avoid divisiveness within Catholic communities. But in reality its foundation is far deeper.
    It is a core teaching of Catholic ecclesiology that the sanctification of the world falls primarily to lay women and men. And it is a core teaching of Catholic moral theology that it is deeply within the conscience of the individual believer that key moral decisions must be made. The foundational assertion of democracy is that the average citizen is best equipped to guide society through electoral choice.
    The corollary within Catholic teaching which supports the democratic impulse is the proposition that in discerning which candidate will best advance the common good, the prudential decision of each citizen remains paramount. Thus while bishops must teach on principles of moral judgment, and outline key elements of the common good which are at stake in a particular historical moment, they should refrain from favoring particular candidates.

  2. C’mon, man! How anybody, specifically a Traditional Catholic, could vote for Witch Clinton and Warlock Kaine is beyond me. It is precisely becauseof the weak-kneed bishops of this country that we have such incredibly evil persons running for the highest office in our land. Yes, Trump has his deficiencies but they pale in comparison to those of the opposition. Anyone who votes for the Clinton-Kaine ticket is, in my mind, complicit in the great evils of Abortion and Euthanasia which cry out to Heaven for vengeance. They are indeed playing with their eternal salvation

  3. The bishop is a troll with bovine scat for brains ! To enable the great sin of abortion strips him of any authority he might think he has. Same goes for that cone head in the Vatican ! No body should listen to those idiots. One has to make some moral judgements and at this point it is immoral to vote for any Democrat.

  4. It’s also patently immoral and a mortal sin to obey evil orders from the Vatican and any diocesan mitred wunderkind who actually COMMANDS the violation of innocence among children with damnable sex ed programs.

    Yes, Viriginia, we have come to this. There IS a devil and he has all kinds of supporters among “consecrated” souls in the hierarchy.

  5. It is gravely immoral and a mortal sin to vote for a candidate who advocates abortion and especially late-term or partial-birth abortion, particularly when there is a pro-life candidate in the election or one who at least advocates placing limits on abortion. So the pro-life priest is not under any obligation to follow a stand-down order from a fruitcake modernist bishop. In fact, it is the duty of the priest to warn the faithful about the evils likely to come from the victory of a pro-abortion candidate. In this election the liberal Democrat candidate is anti-Catholic, hysterically pro-abortion, and very evil.

  6. People may not want priests in either their bedroom or their voting booth, but priests have a duty to speak out on issues of moral concern and to offer people guidance on how to vote, though not for whom to vote. Principles issued by the American bishops are a good place to start. cruxnow.com/commentary/2016/08/11/priests-tell-people-vote-not-vote/ And the ONLY life that the “other” candidate is for is HIS!

    • Principles issued by the American bishops are a good place to start.

      A couple of bishops have spoken against pro-abortion pols, but the USCCB is definitely not supporting prolife. The bishops sound more like the “seamless garment” feces promoted by fag Bernardin. Today, it is the environment and aliens that override abortion.

      Crux doesn’t provide Catholic truth, as we’ve seen in many instances: angelqueen.org/?s=crux

      The bottom line is exactly what this good priest taught in the article: HRC is for murder of the unborn, for murder of the elderly via national health care, for changing Church doctrine, notably on abortion and contraception.

      It is abundantly clear that voting for HRC is a grave sin for anyone who is reading this article, as there is enough information to show how grave it is.

    • The “[p]rinciples issued by the American bishops” include a loophole that one may vote for a pro-abortion candidate if one is doing so to support not the candidate’s position on abortion but his or her position on other issues such as immigration, welfare, taxation, the environment, etc., etc.

  7. CM Exclusive: San Diego Priest Speaks Out

    by Church Militant • November 5, 2016

    Father Richard Perozich responds to backlash to his column urging Catholics to vote pro-life

    Father Richard Perozich of Immaculate Conception Catholic Church in San Diego, California has suffered backlash from two recent parish bulletins advising Catholics how to vote in good conscience. An October 16 insert in the parish bulletin — which had not been endorsed by Fr. Perozich — said it was “a mortal sin to vote Democrat.” Father Perozich then authored an October 30 column in the parish bulletin denouncing abortion, the LGBT agenda, euthanasia and other intrinsic evils condemned by the Catholic Church.

    The backlash was immediate, with multiple media sources criticizing Fr. Perozich, while his own archdiocese refused to support him. His bishop, Robert McElroy, went so far as to make a speech over the weekend claiming that clergy should refrain from telling Catholics how to vote, either directly or indirectly.

    Father Perozich spoke with ChurchMilitant to offer a response.

    ***

    CM: Were you surprised by the backlash to the Oct. 16 flier?

    FRP: After backlash began and multiplied, I knew it would continue for several reasons. First of all, no one likes to be told they are less than anyone else, have done something evil, and are going to Hell. I did not endorse that comment for a flier in our bulletin, and it was not put there by our parishioners. The five non-negotiables [support for abortion, same-sex “marriage,” euthanasia, human cloning, and embryonic stem cell research] are true.

    The backlash began because of an article written by a local reporter for our paper who did not get in touch with me to ask any questions, but extrapolated what he wished and constructed his piece.

    I found many people who are poorly formed as Catholics, many ex-Catholics and those who used the argument of no political comment by churches. I need a contortionist to teach me to twist my body to do the unseemly things they suggested I should do.

    CM: What prompted you to include the Oct. 30 commentary on voting?

    FRP: Still many, many positive responses were sent by email or voicemail regarding the October 30 bulletin piece, which I penned to my parishioners (because our bulletin is for our parishioners and visitors) to show them their identity as Christians to work to change the world from secular values to godly ones: life instead of abortion, euthanasia, cloning, embryonic destruction, true marriage and chastity, a country united around faith and reason and the Constitution, not around the values of evil or of other cultures.

    I wanted to show Catholics how they have been undermined by desensitization, jamming and conversion to secular ideas and what the outcome that is hoped for by some who wish to govern us. I wanted to show them that they cannot always trust any leader even in the church, even me, but should know their faith from the Bible and Tradition, not relying on anyone speaking to them. I wanted to show how they are soldiers for Christ, working for Him as members of the Family of God to bring His values to the world.

    CM: Do you agree with the idea proffered by some that clergy should refrain from guiding Catholics, directly or indirectly, on how to vote?

    FRP: I do not agree that we should be silent. My salary is about $26,000 per year. I pay tax on that. I pay 15 percent Social Security tax. I pay tax on my housing, car insurance and food allowance. The fact that the institution doesn’t pay tax on buildings, property, and the collection helps churches and 501(c)3 corporations to do their work and ministry. I do not tell people to vote for this candidate or that one, but point out what the Catholic values are and how some of us need conversion to these if we are voting or if we are asking for a vote.

    CM: We at ChurchMilitant.com have decried the fewness of the number of bishops and priests who have spoken out during this election against the Clinton campaign’s anti-Catholic bigotry, her stance on abortion, or Tim Kaine’s false Catholicism. The October 30 column in your parish bulletin notes that some clergy “instead of building up the faith of the Christians, despise us, call us names, or to jam us, or create things that don’t exist such as islamophobia and islamophobes, homophobia and homophobes. We are called by some bishops Rosary counters, hiding behind Christian doctrine, pickled pepper-faced Christians, little monsters, fundamentalists, anesthetized Christians, among many other insults.”

    Have you been disappointed in some of the clergy’s silence and passiveness during this critical election?

    FRP: You don’t rise to authority in an institution unless you follow the lead of those already there. More than disappointment, I confess that this is what I expect. Catholic clergy are institutionalized — paid salaries, paid retirement, paid housing, paid cable, paid cell phone, paid car or car insurance and sometimes gasoline, paid utilities, paid internet. It would be unusual for someone to want to have that taken away.

    We don’t live the lives of our parishioners unless we have been in struggling places with struggling people. Some of us are more in touch than are others. The farther away you move from the common and the poor in power, possessions and prestige, the farther away you move from reality. It is easy to insist that the common and the poor get everything that we have, as long as we don’t have to pay for it.

    I believe that every 501(c)3 that promotes a government program that costs the government money and its citizens taxes should be taxed for a portion of what they are demanding from the state.

    CM: What final advice would you give Catholics on voting in the few days before Election Day?

    FRP: Prioritize the issues — life from conception to natural death, God-given sexuality and marriage between man and woman, embryonic stem cell research, cloning, euthanasia — way above all other things. Then a citizen has a right to vote for more taxes for all sorts of programs if he or she wishes by putting into place those seeking election who meet these first five criteria.

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