“Culture of Fornication”: Argentina’s Bergoglian Bishops — Case Macri to Case Aguer

“Culture of Fornication”: Argentina’s Bergoglian Bishops — Case Macri to Case Aguer

Text: Giuseppe Nardi
Trans: Tancred
8/31/16

(Buenos Aires) The bergoglian Argentine bishops, the greater the confusion seems to be (see The contradictions of the Church “the open doors”: Argentine President Must not be Godfather [in comment below]). The Archbishop of La Plata, the historic opponent of Jorge Mario Bergoglio in Argentine episcopate, criticized in a column the widespread “culture of fornication.” His brother bishops distanced themselves from him.

The Case Macri and Political Antipathies

The newborn son from a Catholic family with many children was denied baptism in Bergoglio’s Archdiocese of Buenos Aires because – according to an Argentine tradition, the sponsor for the seventh child is the President – who since December 2015, is the incumbent president Mauricio Macri, a remarried divorcee, who had been rejected as godfather.

Macri, who displaced the previously ruling (left) Peronist from power last fall, has ever since been the validly declared main enemy. It’s a conflict that seems to have been transferred to the Church. That Pope Francis would have preferred the Left-Peronist candidate in the presidential palace, is an open secret. A donation of the new president to the Pontifical University Foundation Scholas Occurrentes was returned in April’s return mail to the donor. In other words: The donation came from the wrong (political) area, with which one would not even have anything to do in terms of good works. It was a veritable papal disavowal of a head of state.

The same had happened already in July 2015 at the Pope’s visit to Latin America. While the Catholic Church leader met with the left presidents of Ecuador and Bolivia, dazzling the mind and also expressed this in front of the photographer, Francis went against the conservative President of Paraguay on a collision course. He made unheard of public criticisms of ​​the head of state to thousands citizens and the highest dignitaries of the country and they were also completely groundless allegations . It would be difficult to express (political) sympathies and antipathies more outwardly.

No wonder then that Argentina’s bishops and pastors, at least those who want to be particularly bergoglian, follow the example of the Pope, and in turn disavow President Macri. The reel of rejection of Macri as godfather was opened at the Cathedral of Buenos Aires, the long-term “domestic church” of the current Pope, where he made his successor Msgr. Mario Aurelio Poli, a close friend and even created him a cardinal.

The Case of Archbishop Aguer

There isn’t just friction between the Pope and President. There had been friction long before the papal election between the Archbishop of Buenos Aires and the “conservative” Archbishop of La Plata, Msgr. Héctor Aguer. Jorge Mario Bergoglio in the Argentine Bishops’ Conference was like a leader of the “doves”, while Archbishop Héctor Aguer was the spokesman of the “hawks”.

Since Cardinal Bergoglio had become Pope, he has been undermining the “hawks” by his new appointments, stripping feathers. But still the pugnacious archbishop of La Plata is in his office. In May 2018 he completes his 75th year.

In the daily newspaper El Día of La Plata Archbishop Aguer writes a regular column in which he knows how to swim against the current, as well as in his most recent column of August 23. Under the title “La Fornicación” to English “Fornication,” where he raised his voice against “lewd culture”, sexuality and love “trivialized”.

What does he mean by a “culture of fornication,” the archbishop explained with a practical example. He cited the Brazilian press, which had calculated that in just 17 days an average of 42 condoms were used by each participant at the Summer Olympics. Sexual intercourse with multiple partners, who are often perfect strangers, is a behavior that are in themselves, “animalistic,” said the Archbishop. He used a popular Latin American gutter expression.

Among other things, Msgr. Aguer criticized the gender ideology and “other unnatural relationships.” The Archbishop took up the cudgel for lifelong marriage in mutual love and respect between a man and a woman, and for the ability to bond, which sees destroyed contra naturam through the fornication.

In this context, the archbishop engaged clear criticism of aberrosexual relationships and the possibility for them to adopt children.

The “trouble of the Church”

Archbishop Héctor Aguer drew with this column not only the wrath of liberals and the aberro-associations, but also his brother bishops.

In the issue from August 28 the newspaper La Nacion, the Argentine “house organ” of Pope Francis, published the article “Trouble in the Church on the Nature and Language of Msgr. Hector Aguer”. The article “reflects,” says the author, the “reaction of the Church” (!) to the column by Archbishop Aguer.

The article quotes three bishops who take a position against the Archbishop of La Plata but remain anonymous.

“The same bishops who insisted in a conservative position in the case of Macri, represented in case Aguer the exact opposite, and therefore a liberal position,” said Secretum meum mihi .

The distancing from Archbishop Aguer is established by the first anonymous bishops with “his language” and “his method.”

The second anonymous bishop is quoted as saying that the column of Msgr. Aguer “is not representing the concerns of the Church, especially in a moment like this, with its much more important problems.”

A third anonymous bishop reiterates the statement that it is indeed important that the people to know what the Church teaches on sexual morality and marriage, “but now tries to mediate teaching in a context of respect for individual freedom of believers.”

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  1. Contradictions of the Church “of the Open Doors”: Argentina’s President May Not be a Godfather

    Text: Giuseppe Nardi
    Trans: Tancred
    8/31/16

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    Poor Little Tiziano Couldn’t be Baptized in a Catholic Church, Because His Godfather is the Divorced President, Mauricio Macri

    (Buenos Aires) The new church line is coming snaking into the Argentina Church. Everything seems to have its order, but surely there is no one, let alone the people, who might pass by the signals into a skid. Or is it all just a matter of policy?
    The double Synod of Bishops had the obvious target, remarried divorcees – to better integrate into the Church – with or without admission, to Holy Communion. In an interview with the Argentine newspaper La Nacion, Pope Francis said on December 7, 2014:
    “They are not excommunicated, that’s right. But they may not be godfathers, they may not be lectors at Mass, they may not give Holy Communion, they must not be catechists. They may not do seven things, I have the list here.Stop! When I put down the bill, then it seems as if they were de facto excommunicated! Therefore: we open the door a little. Why should they not be godfathers?”

    That was shortly after the end of the first Synod of Bishops and before the Second Synod of Bishops on the Family.

    Baptism as Aberro Spectacle

    On 5 April 2014, and a few months earlier, a child conceived by artificial insemination was baptized in the Argentine city of Cordoba Cathedral whose mother lives in a lesbian relationship with another woman. The two women who are active in the gay scene were previously briefly in a “gay marriage”.

    The baptism became a media event for the acceptance of homosexuality. The former Left-Peronist President Cristina Fernandez Kirchner was designated a godparent. The event caused a significant tempest, there was reasonable doubt that the lesbian couple could ensure a Christian education of the child. The same was true for the godmother, who had enforced the “gay marriage” in her term of office and wanted to foster the introduction of abortion.

    All of the concerns were from the cathedral minister were brushed aside, not without the support of the Archdiocese. This is about the baptism of a child, period. The girl wasn’t just baptized in any chapel and in the absence of the media, but in the Archdiocesan Church and under a lot of hype.

    Since there was no accompanying explanation, the impression remained that the Catholic Church recognizes aberrosexuality, “gay marriage” and artificial insemination of lesbian women. The sponsorship by State President Kirchner also gave the event a clearly political aspect and presented the baptism in the service of the aberro lobby.

    With artificial insemination there is also the suspicion of selective abortion is given in relation to aberrosexuals. Lesbians prefer girls, gays want to adopt boys or have the delivery by surrogate mothers.

    Transsexual as “Godmother”

    In March 2014 a “transsexual” Enrique Martinez aka Solange Lisette Luna Navarro, a prominent gay activist, complained that he could not be a “godmother” in an interview with Radio Fénix. “The law agrees with me,” said the “transsexual” citing a “legal right”, referring to the law of the state, not to the law of the Church. Catholic doctrine had no influence on Martinez.

    Shortly thereafter, the competent Archdiocese La Rioja published a press statement by the Vicar General, who announced that the “transsexual” may very well be “godmother.” The reasoning of the General Vicar was based, combined, on the “new legal order” of the papal pronouncement: “Who am I to judge.”

    The baptism of a girl with “two mothers” and sponsorship of a “transsexual,” although in both cases the persons concerned expressed their rejection of a part of Catholic teaching in public statement, was for not a problem for the Argentine Church, nor for demonstrably politically tinged sponsorship of anti-Church State President.

    Refusal of Sponsorship by President Macri

    Things look quite different for the new conservative president Mauricio Macri. Macri has been married since 2010 in third marriage with businesswoman Juliana Awada. Awada, daughter of a famous Lebanese business family in Argentina with a Muslim father, Catholic mother (Syrian Catholic), had been baptized and brought up Catholic as had been her four siblings.

    Tiziano, the now four months old godson of the President had to be baptized in a Protestant church, because no Catholic parish had offered their services. The reason? Because the president is divorced and remarried.

    Tiziano is the seventh child of a Catholic family. One tradition after it is customary for the President to be upon request the sponsor of the seventh child.

    The mother of seven, Natalia Alcalle, went “very happily” to the cathedral, the former episcopal church of Archbishop Jorge Mario Bergoglio to there to ask for baptism. The surprising answer was “No”. Then she approached the most renowned Marian shrine of Argentina, the Basilica of Our Lady of Lujan. The answer was again negative.

    In three parishes they asked. Once the name Macris was mentioned, “we were faced with a wall” Mediamza wrote, citing the mother two days ago. After three rejections she had become “so embarrassed” that she did not dare a fourth request. “I was told everywhere, that is not possible, because the president is divorced and lives in concubinage.”

    After some consultation with the Presidential Chancellery, Pastor Victor Doroschuk of the Protestant Church “Vida y Paz” was finally consulted.

    Pontifical signal to remarried divorcees

    It was Pope Francis, who significantly changed the protocol of the Holy See changed abruptly, and President Macri had received last February 27 with Juliana Awada. Until then, the spouse of remarried and divorced State representatives were greeted by the pope only separately, and briefly in a separate room. Also, there was no common photo with the Pope. The protocol was in order to engage clarity and the conscience, to underline the difference between a regular and an irregular marriage connection.
    The change means a few scant months after the end of the Second Synod of Bishops on the Family, a dramatic intervention in the Vatican protocol and it was understood as a signal of a change of course towards divorce and remarriage.

    Pope “really links nothing” with President Macri

    Overall, however, it is known that Pope Francis had preferred Macri’s Left-Peronist opponent in the presidential election. Since then there have been several taunts. This included that Macri, who took office as head of state on 10 December 2015 last March who offered the Pontifical Foundation Scholas Occurentes a grant of more than one million dollars. “As of May 30th when the news came to the Vatican, the Pope took the anti-Peronist and Liberal Macri’s victory very poorly, according to what his Argentine friends said,” wrote the Vatican expert Sandro Magister. The money was sent back by return mail. Take no money from governments. However, that was something different under Macri’s predecessor Kirchner. Argentine media reported a “disavowal” of the President, with whom Pope Francis apparently does not want to be associated.

    Should political affiliations be decisive for baptisms in Argentina’s Church under Pope Francis? Homosexuals, transsexuals and LGBT activists, yes, conservative politicians, no?

    Education, training and information on Catholic doctrine and Sacraments in all directions and to all situations seem to be subject to the time of day.

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