Why Are Violent Black Supremacists Attracted to Islam?

Why Are Violent Black Supremacists Attracted to Islam?

Gavin Long, the Baton Rouge shooter

Posted by Oakes Spalding on SUNDAY, JULY 17, 2016

Obviously I’m writing this because it was reported that the second of two recent black supremacist assassins, Gavin Long, who murdered three officers today in Baton Rouge, “converted to Islam three years ago.” The first of the two assassins, Micah X Johnson, who murdered five officers in Dallas a week ago, may or may not have thought of himself as a Muslim, but according to reports, he was at least attracted to the Nation of Islam.

Okay, cue the expected rejoinders:

They weren’t really Muslims because Islam is a religion of peace and they obviously weren’t very peaceful.

The Nation of Islam isn’t really Muslim.

I have no sympathy for the first claim. People that make use of it are guilty of the No True Scotsman logical fallacy [see comment below]. They are assuming what they are trying to prove.

I do think the second is half-true. The Nation of Islam certainly takes many things from Islam, but it also goes off on a weird black supremacist tangent that has absolutely no basis in Islamic text, history or tradition. To see this, read the Autobiography of Malcolm X, among other sources.

But for the sake of argument, let’s accept both claims and stipulate that the two recent black supremacist assassins weren’t really Muslim. Whatever they thought they liked about Islam wasn’t really Islam. And the Nation of Islam isn’t really Islamic.

But that of course brings up the obvious question: why did they think they were sympathizing with Islam?

Or to put it another way, if the Nation of Islam isn’t really Islamic, why isn’t there, say, a Nation of Confucianism or a Nation of Zoroastrianism or a Nation of Traditional Catholicism for disaffected and angry black supremacists?

(Yes there are weird quasi-Jewish and quasi-Christian black supremacist cults but you don’t see members of those cults shooting anyone.)

Or to put it more generally, why are violent people who want to identify with a religion – but who will really (if we continue to accept the above stipulation) merely be perverting it – 99% of the time prone to perverting only one of the possible religions that they could, as it were, pervert?

What is it about Islam that causes this?

Or is it all merely a coincidence?

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3 comments on “Why Are Violent Black Supremacists Attracted to Islam?

  1. Posted by Oakes Spalding on WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 18, 2015

    No True Scotsman

    Anthony Flew

    I love logical fallacies. Stop snickering. It’s not because I like to use them. Rather, I believe that categorizing all the ways that our thinking can go wrong and then attaching silly or Latin names to them, along with evocative examples is itself, well, entertaining and funny.

    Over at What’s Up With Francis-Church, Catholic journalist Hilary White wrote an apropos and humorous post about the phenomenon of taking the latest Muslim atrocity and saying, “that has nothing to do with Islam” or “no true Muslim would do that” or some such. It’s so pervasive in our culture right now that most of the time you don’t even notice it, like bad air in Beijing or whatever.

    Hilary White even references a video where various people claim that the fact that the Paris attacks were terrorist attacks proves that no true Muslim could have been responsible for them.


    She then reminds us of the No True Scotsman fallacy.

    As fallacies go it’s fairly recent, or at least its explicit identification is. It was coined in 1975 by Anthony Flew, who everybody hates because he was a flaming right-wing atheist. That he became a sort of deist in his final book appeased few.

    From his Thinking about Thinking:

    Imagine Hamish McDonald, a Scotsman, sitting down with his Glasgow Morning Herald and seeing an article about how the “Brighton (England) Sex Maniac Strikes Again”. Hamish is shocked and declares that “No Scotsman would do such a thing”. The next day he sits down to read his Glasgow Morning Herald again; and, this time, finds an article about an Aberdeen (Scotland) man whose brutal actions make the Brighton sex maniac seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that Hamish was wrong in his opinion, but is he going to admit this? Not likely. This time he says: “No true Scotsman would do such a thing”.

    The compilers at Wikipedia put it thus:

    No true Scotsman is an informal fallacy, an ad hoc attempt to retain an unreasoned assertion. When faced with a counterexample to a universal claim (“no Scotsman would do such a thing”), rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric, without reference to any specific objective rule (“no true Scotsman would do such a thing”).

    Philosophy professor Bradley Dowden explains the fallacy as an “ad hoc rescue” of a refuted generalization attempt. The following is an example of the fallacy:

    Person A: “No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.”

    Person B: “But my uncle Angus likes sugar with his porridge.”

    Person A: “Ah yes, but no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.”

    In her piece, Hilary White substitutes “Muslim” for “Scotsman”. Apologies, Muslims.

    I should say, though, that as funny and appropriate as the point is, its not even strong enough. It’s not that Muslims are just like everyone else, occasionally committing terrorist acts, etc. It’s that this (committing terrorist acts) is one of the essential points of Islam. Muhammad was, among other things, a terrorist—who massacred Christians and Jews (and then raped their wives), ordered the assassination of opponents (including female poets), and all the rest. Or at least he was, according to the Koran and the Hadith (the “official” sayings and deeds of Muhammad).

    So I suppose we could coin a new fallacy:

    Islamilliteracy: Pontificating about Islam—including making definitive claims about what Islam really means and Muslims really are—without having actually read the Koran or having familiarity with the most well-known and well-taught or cited Hadith.

    We could add, “or without knowing anything about Islamic history beyond skimming Karen Armstrong, John Esposito or the most recent offering from the Paulist Press,” but that would be piling on.

    Fallacies are funny. They can also get you killed. Or rather, they can get other people killed.

    Everyone is prone to the occasional fallacy, I suppose. What bothers me is when they smirk while doing so.

    Especially when they smirk against the background of some twenty-something rock-and-roll fan, begging for the life of his girlfriend before seeing her throat slit. And then getting an answering spray of bullets in the chest.

  2. Black Lives Matter Supporters Celebrate Baton Rouge Police Shootings On Twitter
    [Warning: very foul language]

    Two reasons to post this:
    1) We’ve not looking at lone-wolf shootings. This is a movement that threatens the foundations of society.
    2) Hillary’s solution is to stand together, and to teach whites about their systemic racism.

    Thus, HRC wants to continue Obama’s Alinskyite social upheaval. On this point, a cop has it right: Cleveland Police Association President Steve Loomis: Obama “Has Blood On His Hands”

    Finally, remember that there is an election coming up. Compare the above to Cardinal O’Malley’s milquetoast condemnation of Trump, and see where reality lies.

  3. Black Pastors Leader: Obama Has ‘Fostered a Lawless Society’
    by Dr. Susan Berry, 18 Jul 2016

    The leader of a coalition of black pastors says the political rhetoric of President Barack Obama and his administration has caused division in America and has “fostered a lawless society.”

    Rev. William Owens, President of the Coalition of African American Pastors (CAAP) tells Breitbart News the ambush attack of police officers in Baton Rouge “should not happen in America.”

    “Obama and his administration have caused division in our nation and have fostered a lawless society,” he asserts.

    “The divide that we are witnessing didn’t just start,” he explains. “We have a president who has divided us as a nation with his political rhetoric. In America, gays are divided against straight people, rich against poor, women against men, blacks against whites, black lives matter against police – which our president promotes.”

    Owens continues:

    In Baton Rouge six police officers were ambushed and three are now dead for simply doing their jobs. This should not happen in America. The attacks on police officers are terrible acts, which CAAP utterly condemns. To have taken up arms against police officers is an evil that will only bring more violence, hatred, and division upon us. If we don’t act now, we will be destroyed from within.

    Owens and his coalition are urging pastors and African American leaders to take a more active role in healing divisiveness in their local communities, especially between law enforcement and citizens.

    “I am deeply concerned about the lawlessness that has become commonplace in our neighborhoods,” he says. “We have a ‘spirit’ of lawlessness that has permeated every area of our civilization. President Obama opened the door with his lawless deeds by continually subverting the will of the people by using executive action to institute policies that ‘We the People’ voted against.”

    Owens has publicly criticized the Obama administration’s attempt to push the radical LGBT agenda onto the country and create the narrative that the campaign for same-sex marriage is the equivalent of the civil rights movement led by Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr.

    He states:

    President Obama did more to push the radical LGBT agenda than he did to bring healing and unity in our communities. While I don’t blame President Obama for the mentally ill people who carry out acts of terror, I do hold him accountable for setting an example as the leader of our nation by systematically acting lawlessly himself. In addition, he has not offered consistent and solid leadership in his seven plus years as commander and chief. We don’t need any more of his speeches. We need a leader. One who is accountable to “We the People.” One who is not lawless or reckless.

    Owens says he is “disgusted with all of the blood shed on the streets of America.” He calls on Americans of every race, creed, culture, and background to join CAAP’s RISE network that seeks to create a new grassroots movement for faith, family, and justice.

    “Let’s work together to bring healing to our nation,” Owens urges. “Let’s work together to bring back law and order, respect and common decency to our beloved America.”

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