Mikey Voris’ July 8, 2016 Vortex: ROME BE DAMNED: Wake up — the problem ain’t the Pope; it’s the bishops

Mikey Voris’ July 8, 2016 Vortex: ROME BE DAMNED: Wake up — the problem ain’t the Pope [it’s the bishops]

The lead item on ChurchMilitant: Abp. Cupich appointed to Congregation for Bishops [that manages the selection of new bishops]

In an announcement Thursday [July 7, 2016], Pope Francis selected the archbishop of Chicago to fill a vacancy within the congregation created by the departure of Cdl. William Levada, who resigned from the position only weeks ago. The appointment being effective immediately, Cupich will join Cdl. Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C., also selected by the Pope [Francis], as one of two American representatives to the curial office.

Mikey echoes some of the Neo-Catholic Register John Paul Shimek’s “Should Good Catholics Read Far-Right Catholic Blogs?”

For example:

There is a lot of bellyaching going on among Catholics about a continual string of ill advised comments from Pope Francis. The comments are confusing to say the least and often times contradict previous comments he has made about the very same topic.

No doubt about – a blind man can see it.

But the industry that is developing around this thought is dangerous on a number of levels. The industry of “blast the pope for his confusing, conflicting statements” is dangerous.

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The danger of always pointing to Rome, always saying the pope is a heretic, the pope is confusing, the pope is this, the pope is that – is that THE POPE isn’t the problem, just an easy target.

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It’s easy to sit across the Atlantic and point out errors, confusing statements etc, because the Pope isn’t listening to them and won’t lean on them.

Likewise, for the so-called traditional blogs out there that fancy themselves the saviors of the Church – get real. All your incessant bile creates .. is worse conditions for any future cleaning of the Church because you have now created and inculcated a culture of suspicion surrounding whoever the next pope will be.

The Register eventually pulled that piece, because it “was posted without authorization …, bypassed any editorial review [and] did not reflect the Register’s editorial views.”

Mikey won’t do the same thing for his screed or for the same reasons, because he sets the editorial standards and policy for his own ranting and raving.

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5 comments on “Mikey Voris’ July 8, 2016 Vortex: ROME BE DAMNED: Wake up — the problem ain’t the Pope; it’s the bishops

  1. “The danger of always pointing to Rome, always saying the pope is a heretic, the pope is confusing, the pope is this, the pope is that – is that THE POPE isn’t the problem, just an easy target.”

    No Mikey, the Pope IS the problem!
    And so are Kool-Aid drinking papolator neo-Catholics like you Mikey who defend the indefensible because you want to give the impression of your ignorant followers that you are (erroneously) a “traditional” Catholic, while making a very good living financially defending the indefensible from the heretic in Rome.
    Which started long before Bergoglio ascended to the Chair of Peter.
    Jorge is definitely IMO, the worst Pope in history, but all of the conciliar popes were modernists, worldly and relativists, so the rot started long before Bergoglio.
    Which you Mikey would most likely deny too.

  2. The Church prior to Vatican II, and after Trent, was stable, but it was problematic. Did anyone stop and think on the “Conservative” side that the Holy Spirit Allowed the Second Vatican Council and the Conciliarist Popes and Synods on the Family, Assisi etc, precisely BECAUSE HE IS TALKING TO US. God does not want robots; He wants humanity to “Know, Love and Serve Him in this world and the next ” precisely because He does not want people to just obey. The First Great Commandment is NOT “love they God with all that the Popes require or expect you to do”. God says that He wants to be Loved WITH ALL MIND- as well as all heart and soul. People who simply think they are Catholic by simple obedience, take God for granted and are the real Pharisees. God allowed all that is happening to break us out of our simplistic obedience and bureaucratic hierarchical routine boxes.

  3. “Errors have made their way into Catholic doctrine… and are unfortunately encouraged by a large number of pastors, including the Pope himself.”
    – Communique of the Superior General, SSPS, June 29, 2016.

  4. [A more detailed refutation from Restore-DC-Catholicism]

    Michael Voris – Doubling Down On Denial Of Serious Papal Problems

    Generally I’ve found Michael Voris and his Church Militant TV apostolate to be very informative and helpful through the years – particularly the Vortex series. Regrettably though, he’s evinced denial of the serious problems that Pope Francis continues to pose for the Faith. When these episodes have presented themselves, I (and others) have seen it necessary to refute them for they are full of logical flaws. Indeed, it is only the utilization of flawed logic that would cause one to deny evidence that repeatedly presents itself to the public. If logical fallacies aren’t the root causes of the denials, the latter might be engaged at the request of a donor. It’s one or the other; I don’t know which. [I think it’s partly bad logic on Mikey’s part but moreso following the money and dictates of his Opus Dei benefactor/manipulator – AQ moderator Tom] …

    … I’m going to analyze the lack of logic posed in this Vortex. I may not necessarily go in the same order as the script of this Vortex.

    In the first paragraph, Voris acknowledges the problematic and even harmful nature of the pope’s repeated erroneous remarks. As he states, a blind person can see the glaring problems.

    In the second paragraph, his train of thought starts to jump the rails. He talks of this “industry of blasting the pope for his confusing conflicting statements”. Industry?

    First, we are kept busy addressing the confusing statements, but that’s because they issue from his mouth non-stop (especially when he’s aboard planes). Second, let’s be clear that “addressing the confusing statements” is NOT equivalent to “blasting the pope”. I truly believe that a donor is feeding this script to Voris. Then he talks of a notion that “everything that’s wrong in the Church can be solved by the pope”. That’s not a correct picture of the papacy at all. He does have the sacred charge of safeguarding the deposit of faith. Unfortunately these “conflicting statements” have had the effect of endangering the deposit of faith. Is it too much to ask that the pope not pose a danger to the faith?

    Later on, he talks of the rebellion of many bishops against the faith. That’s true. Where was the current pope five years ago? Was he in the ranks of those rebellious bishops? Read this article that details Cardinal Bergoglio’s “spit in the eye” to Pope Benedict after the latter delivered his Regensburg address. What would Voris say of that??? This puts in an ominous light the allowance by Pope Francis to Muslims for praying to their idol in the Vatican gardens.

    Further down he opines that Pope St Pius X tried to stop modernism but then says he “accomplished nothing”. I beg to differ. Pius actually had the modernists scurrying to hide. True, the modernists are quite open now, but that’s only because the reforms instituted by Pius weren’t continued.

    He talks of the delusion of being a “more friendly, accommodating Church”, but doesn’t acknowledge that Pope Francis is aboard that bandwagon (Amoris Laetetia talking of admitting adulterers to Holy Communion, etc).

    He complained about EWTN addressing the confusion that is being caused by the pope (is a donor at the root cause of that complaint?). I presume he’s kvetching about this excellent video by Raymond Arroyo. In the past, EWTN has been silent about misbehaviors by errant bishops, for which the Vortex has rightly chided them. But this Vortex and that recent EWTN clip almost cause me to think that EWTN and Church Militant are switching places when it comes to facing and acknowledging the damage being caused by the pope.

    Moving on down, Voris says that “Years before the controversies around Pope Francis, before he was known anywhere outside of Argentina, Church Militant was saying the problem in the Church is unfaithful bishops, weak bishops, career-minded bishops and ignorant bishops.” They certainly did so. Now where does CM think that then-Cardinal Bergoglio fit into that mix? Let’s look at some of the Masses celebrated by Cardinal Bergoglio, shall we?

    Then Voris follows that with these questions: “What if the Pope came out tomorrow and said no more Holy Communion in the hand, no more altar girls, no more heretics speaking at the L.A. Archdiocese Religious Education Conference, no more cardinals leading parades with gays, no more horrible catechesis being taught in schools (provided he would even know any of this) — what if he came out and did all this? >Do you really think your local bishop in your local diocese, or the national conferences of Catholic bishops in all sorts of countries, would give it the slightest attention?” These questions are absolutely irrelevant. They constitute no justification whatsoever for lack of proper papal action.
    I don’t have time right now to go through this whole mess, but I will close with a look at this blooper: “Well, all the problems in the Church are local — and it’s the bishops. It’s the bishops. It’s the bishops.” Not so! Doesn’t the word “Catholic” imply “universal”? If Voris really believes this nonsense, then by what logic can he oppose giving autonomy to local bishops’ conferences? Ubi Petri, ibi ecclesiam. (I hope I have that Latin right) Again, who/what is force-feeding this nonsense into the Vortex?

    He closes by saying the real issue is the “disobedient bishops”. Well, might one of these “disobedient bishops” be the Bishop of Rome (as he likes to call himself)? I hope this is the last time that I have to go through this analysis, but if the occasion presents itself again, we faithful Catholic bloggers will be up to the task.

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