Did someone give FrankenPope bad advice? Catholic journal questions some of the pope’s words to Mexico’s bishops

Did someone give FrankenPope bad advice? Catholic journal questions some of the pope’s words to Mexico’s bishops

[The old “blame the advisors” routine]

MexicoNewsDaily.com/news/did-someone-give-francis-bad-advice/ | Tuesday, March 8, 2016

Pope Francis reportedly came down a bit hard on Mexico’s bishops during his visit here last month. On Sunday, a Catholic Church publication wondered if he had been given bad advice.

The Archdiocese of Mexico City was responding to some harsh words used by the pope when he addressed bishops in Mexico City. In an editorial the Catholic weekly journal Desde la Fe asked if their spiritual leader had any reasons to “chastise” Mexican bishops.

On a February 13 visit to the Mexico City Metropolitan Cathedral, Francis urged bishops not to be afraid and to be “transparent,” urging that any differences among them should be resolved head on.

Francis’ wake-up call was blunt: “Don’t let yourself be corrupted by trivial materialism or the alluring illusions of accords reached under the table.”

He also said that bishops should not waste their time and energy on secondary issues, in gossip and intrigue, or in “vain personal career projects . . . we do not need ‘princes,’ but rather a community of the Lord’s witnesses.”

The harshest part of his message was, perhaps, when Francis told them: “If you have to fight, then fight. If you’ve got things to say to each other, then say them, But [do it] like men, to the face. And like men of god, pray afterwards if you went too far.”

The words of the pontiff were picked up by local and foreign news outlets, which also recalled that the church hierarchy in Mexico has close ties with the political and economic class, dismisses their faith’s austerity mandate, and holds rather conservative positions with regard to controversial issues such as abortion and gay marriage, in contrast with the general public’s more liberal opinions.

On Sunday, Desde la Fe addressed the phrase “fight like men,” explaining that Francis wasn’t alluding to confrontations as reported by the media, “which are more focused on histrionics than the deep meaning of the words.”

“Instead,” the editorial continued, “the phrase should be understood as an urging to react with evangelic audacity to the alienating proposals that want to corner the church.”

Desde la Fe highlighted the resistance of the Mexican Catholic Church to the expansion of protestant communities, and then wondered if Francis ignored the situation “to give the bishops such a chastisement?”

“The Mexican bishops have been accompanying the suffering, downtrodden people, devoting their lives to others and not living like ‘princes,’” the editorial said.

The editorial concluded on a harsh note: “Who is trying to devalue the labor of Mexican bishops . . . . Could it be that the holy father’s improvised words were a response to bad advice given by someone close to him? Who is giving the pope bad advice?”

The rector of the Pontifical University of Mexico, Mario Angel Flores, said the editorial appeared ill-advised, given that the pope’s comments “were very frank words, inviting everyone to be more clear.”

For Flores, the editorial was “trying to downplay and question [the pope’s] words, which is not the most correct thing to do.”

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One comment on “Did someone give FrankenPope bad advice? Catholic journal questions some of the pope’s words to Mexico’s bishops

  1. The Problem With Francis Is Francis Himself

    MAR 9 ’16 Posted by Mundabor.wordpress.com/2016/03/09/the-problem-with-francis-is-francis-himself/

    The Mexican Bishops are angry at the Pope.

    They are angry because the Pope rebuked them fairly openly during his recent propaganda-trip (they are, I am told, not so angry when the Pope spits heresies, which is fairly often; sed de hoc satis). They are, interestingly, willing to see in the (apparently) reasonable work done by them against Secularism and Protestantism (that is: something more than most of their South American colleague, which tends to zero) the ultimate reason for the Pope’s not-so-veiled rebuke. Now, the analysis comes from the Archbishop of Mexico City, Cardinal Carrera. But it is reasonable to suppose the man shared thoughts with his colleagues before giving vent to his justified anger.

    From this we learn one very important message: whenever the Pope attacks some Bishops, the first thing the Bishops think is that the Pope attacks them because they are being Catholics.

    Absurd in normal times. Perfectly reasonable in Francis’ times.

    With the usual half-baked effort in diplomacy, the Cardinal asks “who advised the Pope so badly”. The question is wrongly posed. Francis is not a good man badly advised. He is an evil man, a profoundly dirty mind, a person corrupted in his bone marrow. Whatever bad advisers he has (I am sure he has a number of them, though I am sure others try at least limit the damage), they are merely the result of his own badness.

    You also read in the article that El Mundo not only confirms great tensions between the Evil Clown and his Mexican Bishops, but also forecast a “renewal of the top of the Mexican Church”. It seems to me that what is in the cards is something akin to what has already happened in Paraguay . But you see, Bishop Livieres Plano was isolated among his modernist colleagues; in Mexico, it could be very different.

    The problem with Francis aren’t his advisers. They are, bad as they are, just the consequence of the root problem. The problem with Francis is Francis himself.

    The Mexican bishops got it. And, besides the half-baked diplomacy, want you to know it, too.

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