Louie V: “If the pope were a liberal Jew…”


If the pope were a liberal Jew, what would his pontificate look like?

I’m being facetious, of course, as everyone knows that the pope, by definition, is Catholic.

That said, humor me, if you will, and consider the sorts of things that might come from the pontificate of a man who, practically speaking, thinks and feels and acts with the mind of a liberal Jew.

Before we begin this exercise, we need to know a little bit about what constitutes liberal Judaism, the two main branches of which identify as “Reform” and “Conservative,” despite the absence of a formal creed to which their members must accede.

To that end, for the sake of expedience, I’ll focus on sources that describe the characteristics of Reform Judaism, with the understanding being that, broadly speaking, Conservative Judaism differs rather little from Reform Judaism in its core convictions, notwithstanding its more “traditional” window dressing.

In order to get our hands around the tenets of Reform Judaism, such as they are, it is useful to consider, first and foremost, the myriad of traditional Jewish beliefs that the movement rejects.

Writing in the magazine Reform Judaism, Rabbi Elliot Stevens referred to several such beliefs, saying:

..the famous Pittsburgh Platform of 1885 that defined Classical Reform Judaism for several generations … rejected such traditional Jewish notions as peoplehood, chosenness, the personal Messiah, resurrection, and a return to the Land of Israel … as well as any references to the priesthood and the sacrificial cult.

Commenting upon the history of the Reform movement, Rabbi Elaine Rose Glickman explained:

Reform Jews prized an intellectual outlook on Judaism and valued religious tenets that could be upheld even in a rational, secular milieu. They did not, therefore, embrace traditional messianism – rooted in complicated Scriptural allusions and folklore, filled with images of apocalyptic battles, a superhuman deliverer, and even a physical resurrection of the dead.

Perhaps the most powerful reason to jettison traditional messianic belief, the Reformers argued, was that it was simply not needed anymore. Human beings – guided not by a Messiah but by their own intellect – had already begun the work of redemption … Reform Judaism abolished the concept of a divinely-sent Messiah and promised instead that humanity would accomplish its own redemption.

With so much focus on man as his own redeemer, it may come as little surprise that reformjudaism.org contends:

Social justice and advocacy are among the central tenets of Reform Judaism.

Among the causes that fall into this category (as addressed on the same site) are those concerning economic justice for the poor, gun control, and liberal immigration reform.

None, arguably, has taken on quasi-religious status among Reform Jews to an extent equal to that of radical environmentalism – a movement-within-the-movement that twists the Psalmists words, addressed to God, “Thou shalt send forth thy spirit, and they shall be created: and thou shalt renew the face of the earth,” into a manifesto for purely human endeavors that tend toward earth worship.

With regard to its aversion to the traditional understanding of peoplehood, and its unwillingness to embrace a doctrine that would dare to single out Judaism as the uniquely exalted religion of the one true God who revealed Himself to His chosen people, it only makes sense that Reform Judaism also holds:

In our diverse and multicultural society, effective interreligious relationships are vital so that diverse faith groups may live together in harmony and work cooperatively.

Reform Judaism, just as predictably, also rejects traditional belief in the divine origins of the Hebrew Scriptures….

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7 comments on “Louie V: “If the pope were a liberal Jew…”

  1. Good find, Patrick. If I may say so, the Pope cannot possibly be Catholic since he espouses liberal Jewish beliefs.

  2. gpmtrad,
    At the posting A Grave Error, I watched the video you posted The Secret Still Silent; and at the post The Mike ‘n’ Chris Show: Cecil, Cupich & the Synod of Doom, I watched the video of the latest Remnant.

    Both these videos are well worth watching. They both point out to us what a mess the Church is now in.

    And both these videos warn us that the problem is emanating from the highest ranks of the Church.

    We need to pray, pray, pray. Those who are supposed to be our leaders have let us down badly. Many bishops and cardinals are little more than heretics.

    And our Pope seems to be constantly sending out mixed messages while failing to deal with the real crisis.

  3. Words and actions speak louder than labels and the words material and formal are applied, largely, by humans to excuse the actions of real heretics. Take, for example, Jorge Bergoglio and Athanasius Schnieder – can anyone say with a straight face that they express the same Faith? My opinion, and it’s strictly my opinion, is that they are far apart on what constitutes being a real Catholic. Yet, one occupies the Chair of Peter and the other is relegated to the sidelines, It’s a paradox; it really is. But, God will not be mocked and we thank Him for that.

    • Well said Colonel.
      To me heresy is heresy, no matter who is doing or promoting it.
      If it goes against the de-fide teachings of Christ, His Catholic Church and natural law and someone who claims to be Catholic is promoting it, then it’s heresy.

      Bergoglio is a fool.

      Yeah he’s sadly the legitimate bishop of Rome, and I pray for his conversion to the Catholic faith as I do all non-Catholics or heretics, but the fact of the matter is I pray for the souls of the ignorant, Catholic or not, who listen to people like Bergoglio, Kasper and all the rest who pervert the teachings of Christ and His Church and put other souls in jeopardy of perdition.

  4. I see and hear exactly the same comments from Bergoglio as do both of you dear friends and colleagues. And I, too, think that, without any doubt, we are witnesses to grave, grave dangers emanating from those comments, whether on paper and spoken extemporaneously.

    In each instance, I take the advice of Bl. Pius IX in his letter to a bishop asking about what to do if a pope errs or worse – “ignore him.”

    My comment, above, had to do with how the Church actually deals (or, at least is supposed to deal) with such cases.

    I wasn’t excusing Bergoglio. He has a great deal to answer for since his entire papacy has been “a train wreck,” as John Vennari put it way back in the beginning of this misbegotten, entirely politicized excursion in Modernism, liberalism and socialism.

    Nevertheless, “no one may judge a pope.” Only a duly constituted body of the Church Herself can depose one. And that, only according to law, which I sought to most elementarily explain.

    If you search YouTube for the videos of Canon Hesse, STL, STD you will find a thorough, eminently qualified theological explanation of the entire matter.

    • Canon Hesse and his sister were guests in our home; I’m well familiar with his views. As to “judging the pope” I do not judge his soul but I can certainly judge his words and actions. We make judgments every day on what is right and wrong – that is part of the the Intellect God gave us. And, on top of that, He expects us to use it!

  5. Colonel, I’m not disagreeing with you. I was trying to point out the negligence on the part of the hierarchy itself, despite mounting evidence of probable heresy.

    It doesn’t matter to me, personally, if a pope is a heretic. There’ve been others, as Canon Hesse stated in one of his conferences.

    My favorite reminder came from a Fr. LaRoche, in the 1920s, cited by Canon Hesse.

    Fr. LaRoche said that once St Pius X had temporarily driven the Modernists into hiding, the next grave evil to emerge would be that “the pope can do anything.”

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