Colombian bishop floats idea of gay apostle, lesbian Mary Magdalene

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Colombian bishop floats idea of gay apostle, lesbian Mary Magdalene

Bishop Juan Vicente Córdoba says ‘no one chooses to be gay or straight’

ROME — A Colombian bishop, insisting that being homosexual is not a sin, said Thursday it’s possible that one of the twelve apostles of Jesus was gay or that Mary Magdalene, another key New Testament figure, was a lesbian.

Bishop Juan Vicente Córdoba of Fontibón, Colombia, also said the Catholic Church does not oppose same-sex couples making a life together, but does not consider such arrangements to be a marriage or a family.

“No one chooses to be gay or straight,” Córdoba said. “One simply feels, loves, experiments, is attracted, and no attraction is bad.”

Córdoba was speaking at a conference about gay marriage and adoption hosted by the local University of Los Andes, at a time when Colombia is debating gay marriage and adoption rights.

Although Córdoba reiterated Church teaching when it comes to marriage – that it’s a union between a man and a woman, permanent, and open to children – he said that homosexuality isn’t a sin.

“Sin is something else. It’s not respecting the dignity of others. Not loving God and our neighbors as we love ourselves, not feeding the hungry, not giving water to the thirsty,” Córdoba said.

He added that he prefers “a thousand times over” for Colombians to have dignity, a proper health system and food for all, rather than talking about whether they’re gay or straight.

According to local reports, Córdoba said that in the Bible there’s no explicit rejection of homosexuality, suggesting there’s no basis for making a condemnation of homosexuality a Church doctrine.

“We don’t know if one of Jesus’ disciples” had a same-sex orientation, he said. “We don’t know either if Mary Magdalene was a lesbian.”

 

In the New Testament, there are hints that Mary Magdalene, a close follower of Jesus, was a prostitute. Córdoba said that may suggest she wasn’t actually a lesbian, but “we don’t know.”

Talking about same-sex adoption, the bishop, who heads the Commission on Life of the Colombian Episcopal Conference and was ordained bishop in 2004, said that children have the right to be raised by a mother and a father.

“We shouldn’t force minors to grow up under a gay couple, because when they become adolescents they’ll say they would have wanted to have a mom and a dad,” Córdoba said.

Córdoba said that the decision on gay marriage and adoption rights can’t be left “in the hands of a few,” adding that a referendum would be the right way to make the call.

He also asked for the debate not to be reduced to a political standoff.

“This is not a ‘genitals’ battle,” he said. Today the battles have to be in favor of the dignity of the poor, those that are not being heard,” Córdoba said.

If gay marriage is eventually legalized, Córdoba issued a challenge to homosexuals in Colombia.

“Gay brothers, when you get married, have nice homes, based in fidelity, and educate your children with love, preoccupied for the poor, the needy, so that there’s justice in Colombia,” he said.

Córdoba asked those in favor of the gay rights bill not to call the opposition “recalcitrant, dinosaurs, cavemen, retarded, because we also have the right to present our ideas and our emotions with respect.”

“There will come a time when the Catholic Church is a minority that will be crushed by the majority,” he warned. “Let us respect each other, without using adjectives or telling anyone they’re sick or disordered.”

“We can spare all the adjectives,” Córdoba said. “We have a noun, and it’s that we’re brothers and sisters.”

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9 comments on “Colombian bishop floats idea of gay apostle, lesbian Mary Magdalene

  1. “No one chooses to be gay or straight,” Córdoba said. “One simply feels, loves, experiments, is attracted, and no attraction is bad.”

    Sounds like Córdoba is speaking from experience!

    We don’t know if one of Jesus’ disciples” had a same-sex orientation, he said. “We don’t know either if Mary Magdalene was a lesbian.”
    In the New Testament, there are hints that Mary Magdalene, a close follower of Jesus, was a prostitute. Córdoba said that may suggest she wasn’t actually a lesbian, but “we don’t know.”

    And this guy is a bishop of the Catholic Church?!

    Just when I thought I’ve seen and heard it all some liberal fruitcake conciliar prelate proves me wrong once again.

  2. This is the type of blasphemy that brings Divine Retribution, sooner than later.

  3. Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute. The Western Church has always conflated her identity with that of Mary of Bethany and the unnamed prostitute. They were three separate women.

    The Eastern Church names Mary Magdalene as a Myrrhbearer and equal to the apostles in that she spread the Gospel far and wide.

    This “bishop” is a fool and a heretic.

  4. What do you think this guy thinks about all day? He obviously has one dysfunctional moral compass.
    Consumed with talking about gays and lesbians…… I bet he speaks from the heart.
    A “fool and a heretic” yes, certainly. Likely can be labeled something else too.

  5. Is he speaking of himself?

  6. He’s a Jesuit too, no wonder

  7. A quote that keeps coming into my mind in the last few years is: “The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops.”

    I have searched extensively for definitive proof as to who first said this and there are several answers. One is thought to be the great St Athanasius during the Arian heresy, although his version is different and is “The path to hell is paved with the skulls of bishops.”

    No one seems 100% sure who first said it.

    Regardless of its origin, I really think it may be the quote of the decade (or century), because I think the crisis we face now is even worse than the Arian crisis and is, like that crisis, lead by bishops.

    So again I proclaim, in view of examples too numerous to recount, that:

    THE FLOOR OF HELL IS PAVED WITH THE SKULLS OF BISHOPS.

  8. Fidei, I think hell ran out of floor space shortly after the Revolutionary Council took off and new arrivals are now being planted directly into the retaining walls of the septic tank.

    And FWIW, I’ve only seen the quote attributed to St. John Chrysostum.

  9. A complete clown !!! Bishops need term limits. He obviously did not see The DaVinci Code. Everyone knows Mary Magdalene was the wife of Jesus. (Sarcasm ) . His statements are just as absurd as The DaVinci Code book/movie.

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