Papal Diarchy? Did Benedict really resign?

This is the most compelling reflection on the serious questions that many are having about the situation of the papacy today.

remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/articles/item/774-in-a-papal-diarchy-which-half-is-infallible

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12 comments on “Papal Diarchy? Did Benedict really resign?

  1. Sorry, but the Modernists can’t have it both ways. He resigned, that much is clear but he can’t resign de jure and the Modernists know that so they invent this hypothesis. I don’t believe it. It’s the diabolical disorientation once again. The Modernists have created a monster and they’re trying to figure out how to explain it.

  2. I cannot connect using the link adaltaredei provided or by trying to link directly to the remnant with my browser.

    Can someone copy and past the article, please?

  3. This is an even greater “HOOT” than sedevacantism !!!

    In Xto
    M_Eulogius

  4. M_Eulogius, I’m INCLINED to consider the legal plausibility favorably. However, I have not come to a conclusion. These are not incompetents being quoted here or men with a few screws loose.

    It would be helpful if any canonists who visit this site would log in and comment, of course. As well, out attorney members might be able to sift through this for our general edification.

  5. May their reign be short.

    (ECS, I couldn’t resist.)

  6. I’m holding off until the canonical issues are cleared up. There MIGHT be something there. I can’t tell since I’m not expert in the field.

    If I’m wrong, and I am on record all over the place with my recognition that Bergoglio IS the pope, then I own M-Eulogius a round of his favorite adult beverage.

    I’ve already had one of my “trusted analysts” weigh in tonight and he pointed out that a Traditional Franciscan priest told him that he’d never heard of this prophecy. I am not interested in the prophecy in the least. But instead, whether under Church law, Benedict may still – in some canonically recognizable manner – retain some portion of the papacy entrusted to him nine years ago.

    And, that’s it. Nothing more.

  7. Works of the Seraphic Father can be found in PDF format here:
    Works of the Seraphic Father St Francis of Assisi

  8. Why do I take the position I have taken? OK, here’s the deal. I’m no canon lawyer and when I say that Josef Ratzinger cannot resign the papacy de jure, I mean that in the context of Our Lord saying to Peter: “And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give to thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatsoever thou shalt bind upon earth, it shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose upon earth, it shall be loosed also in heaven.”

    Our Lord made a solemn promise to the first pope, Peter, and to his successors so, if Josef Ratzinger was validly elevated to the papacy, then only Our Lord can remove him. Our Lord is the Supreme Legislator and no code of canon law erected by human beings can override His promise and actions in building the Church. But Josef Ratzinger took it upon himself to resign the papacy instead of leaving the matter in the Hands of Our Lord and Savior. Was Josef Ratzinger validly elevated to the papacy by a legally constituted College of Cardinals? Apparently so, I have no reason to doubt it.

    What then of all the actions since then? I can only refer to the words of Our Lord Himself: “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. By their fruits you shall know them. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, and the evil tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can an evil tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit, shall be cut down, and shall be cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them.” I will trust the words of Our Lord and Savior before those of men.

  9. Catholics believe in a visible Church being necessary so that the Faithful may know who rightly makes laws, defines doctrines, and so forth. It is particularly necessary to know who is the Pope. If the reigning Pope says that he resigns, then he has resigned. His resignation is covered in both the old and the new Code of Canon Law: 1917 canon 221 and 1983 canon 332§2. No one is required to accept his resignation.

    The Church has seen roughly half a dozen Popes resign in Its existence.

    in XTO,
    M_Eulogius

    • Thanks for the cites. I can only think of three and I’d heard only of Celestine doing so voluntarily. Do you know who the others were, save for the one who did resign to end the Western Schism? (That one I can look up myself.) Thanks, again.

      • Benedict XVI (Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, April 19, 2005 – February 28, 2013) the reasons for his resignation are the subject of some debate, but he did not seem to have a gun at his head.

        Gregory XII (November 30, 1406, to July 4, 1415), who reigned during the Western Schism. He is generally considered to have been the one legitimate Pope among the three who claimed the papacy simultaneously, resigning in order to allow a new election to end the schism.

        St. Celestine V (Pietro Angelerio del Murrone) reigned from July 5, 1294, to Dec. 13, 1294; a devout Benedictine hermit who was elected Pope and proved incapable of the duties of high office.

        Benedict IX (Theophylactus of Tusculum) has the unique distinction of being Pope during three distinct periods of time! A young, disorderly, layman, appointed through the influence of his father, he served from October 21, 1032 until being violently deposed in September of 1044. With similar violence he returned to expel his elected successor, Sylvester III from Rome on March 10, 1045, only to resign the papacy in less than two months on May 1. After brief reigns by Gregory VI and Clement II, Benedict returned to the papacy (whether or not he was elected again is disputed) on November 8, 1047, only to be deposed again on orders from Emperor Henry III on July 16, 1048.

        St. Pontian, July 21, 230, to Sept. 28, 235 was deported to a forced labor camp on Sardinia, and resigned in order to allow the selection of a successor who was in a better position to govern the Church. He died together, and reconciled with, Hippolytus, who is believed to have been the first antipope.

        It is conjectured, but not certain, that St. Clement of Rome, 88-97 A.D. died in exile in the Crimea and resigned in order to allow the election of his successor. There is little precise information about his family or how he was martyred.

        in XTO,
        M_Eulogius

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