BUFFOONERY IN THE MIDST OF GREAT APOSTASY?

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What is he laughing at? Is this an appropriate posture for the Vicar of Christ when so much evil is present in the world and, more specifically, in the Church? Is he laughing at the cradle Catholics who seek only to follow the traditions handed down from the apostles? Is he laughing at those poor souls in the pews, clutching their rosaries, and praying for a return to true worship on the altars? Is he laughing at those who have been abused by those who should have had the spiritual welfare of souls as their greatest and only goal? Is he laughing at the confusion present in the hierarchy with bishop against bishop and cardinal against cardinal? God only knows.

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13 comments on “BUFFOONERY IN THE MIDST OF GREAT APOSTASY?

  1. This type of ad hominem attack is not really in the spirit of humility or charity that we as faithful Catholics should demonstrate to others. While he may be appropriately criticized for some actions and statements and questioned on others, we should not be discourteous in our choice of language. He’s still the Pope and the head of the Church founded by Jesus Christ.

    • If a small, but important, correction can be offered….

      The Pope is not the head of the Church. It is Christ who is the Head of the Church, and the Pope is His Vicar on Earth.

      As His Vicar, the Pope is accountable to Christ more than any other living person. This should help put into perspective not only the respect due his office, but also the duty of his office, which is to care for the Lord’s sheep according to His example as a Good Shepherd.

      Because of the importance of his office, there can be no scandal greater than that of a Pope who denies his association with Christ, precisely when His enemies conspire to turn public opinion against Him, and whose denial occurs merely at the fear of being recognized.

      • Your correction is joyfully accepted, Fr. Anselm Marie. Nomenclature aside, it does not change my opinion regarding referring to this Vicar of Christ as a “buffoon.” We don’t need to do that.

        And in response to the note below, my daughter is indeed in the FSI, currently in Villa St. Lucia. Her response to the persecution – and don’t take this the wrong way, as she is indeed absolute in her loyalty to Frs. Stefano and Gabriele and the Magisterium – is nothing short of complete joy in the face of this adversity. I have learned much from her.

        Ave Maria!

      • Fr Anselm Marie said:
        “The Pope is not the head of the Church. It is Christ who is the Head of the Church, and the Pope is His Vicar on Earth.
        As His Vicar, the Pope is accountable to Christ more than any other living person. This should help put into perspective not only the respect due his office, but also the duty of his office, which is to care for the Lord’s sheep according to His example as a Good Shepherd.Because of the importance of his office, there can be no scandal greater than that of a Pope who denies his association with Christ, precisely when His enemies conspire to turn public opinion against Him, and whose denial occurs merely at the fear of being recognized”.

        Well said Father, well said.
        That is the flux of the matter with the current occupant of the chair of Peter. That is precisely the point why trads call him (and his conciliar predecessors) out because it is not we trads who are looking down at the Divinely instituted position of the Papacy, but the man himself (in this case Jorge Bergoglio) who doesn’t respect, either cognitively or not, the role and the office with which he has been given. Watering down the faith, denying that sin exists, having religious relativist, syncretist, and indifferentist gatherings with heretics and member of false religions, trying to make the Church a reflection of the secular world and its fads, and attacking orthodox Catholicism and traditional Catholics is not what the Vicar of Christ does. No one, especially myself, wants to call the pope a heretic, or a modernist or anything like that, but by a persons words and actions, while not judging what’s in his heart, he must be held accountable in a charitable way, especially when it is the Vicar of Christ (or any bishop) and souls are being jeopardized by his words and actions.

  2. Ad hominem attack? Did I say something that is not the truth? Has he imposed strictures on traditional groups including but not limited to the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate and the nuns associated with them. Are there not literally thousands of faithful Catholics in the pews praying for a return to Tradition in liturgy, practice and belief? Are there not many who have been abused and have since left the Church in the aftermath of the sex abuse crisis? By the way, I merely asked the questions that I believe needed to be asked and I said at the end that only God knows the motives. If you are uncomfortable with the picture in the midst of chaos in the Church, don’t blame me. Sometimes the truth really hurts.

    • I’m not going to get into an internicene war with you on this issue. You know the truth of the matter. St. Catherine of Sienna, no stranger to issues with a Pope with whom she disagreed, was always respectful. She had this to say: “[W]hat is done to His Vicar on earth, be it reverence or insult, is done to God in Heaven. Think not that God is sleeping over the injuries that have been done to His Spouse … If through me anything can be done to unite you with Holy Church … I am ready to give my life.” I’m not criticizing your criticism, but only ask that it be done in the spirit of love and humility.

    • I will add: as someone with a daughter in the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate, which is undergoing its own persecution at this time, I have more reason than most to be upset with our Holy Father.

      • Since website infiltration is ubiquitous it might prove easy to dismiss your claim, sir. I will not, however. My sense is that what you state about your daughter is absolutely true and you and your daughter have my genuine sympathy.

        I’m quite sure I speak for every member of AQ when I state that.

        I do think phaley, a man who has shouldered enormous responsibilities in his own courageous and selfless career, has merely raised a point any number of sober, staid and well-read Catholic writers, from John Vennari to Michael Matt to Louie Verrecchio, have already raised. And, like them, I consider it a matter of the most grave urgency.

        Despite the respect to which any pope is entitled (your points on St. Catherine are perfectly in order), there is the matter of what to do when a pope openly refuses to follow Sacred Tradition and the words and examples set by his predecessors of blessed memory. Especially, in the wake of a blasphemous event such as the one that took place on the grounds of the Vatican only two days ago.

        We live in a terrible hour.

  3. Barrister, you’re a credit to the Church and I genuinely admire your stance. And, above all, the heroism of your daughter. Truly, she is a rare, rare soul. As, I am sure, are her sisters in religion, especially in this disastrous political trial.

    Although I am sure you fully perceive what I am about to say, it might not be as clear to others who read these posts but do not participate in our discussions…

    A number of old-time members here on AQ, including yours truly, long ago reached the point of no return concerning the Revolution and have chosen to use bandinage, sarcasm and humor as a tool to underscore the tragic comedy into which MOST ” official conciliar ‘churchmen’ ” have plunged headlong, the devil take the hindmost.

    Yes, we are shocked and sickened by any number of news reports and, worse, the quotations accompanying them when uttered by the highest powers in Rome and in dioceses throughout the West.

    And, yes, we are keenly aware of the duties of a Catholic in the presence of, or in communication about, these same descendants of the Apostles.

    And, a final yes, we do struggle with finding some balance between virtue and excess on the point you have raised. I would note that if you think AQ has its share of vehement critics of the policies and actual words of the Revolutionary regime now running the Vatican, you might wish to compare our commentary with that of the sedevacantists, independents and “resisters” on other sites. To me, at least, we come off on this forum as an old Brit gentlemen’s club by comparison.

    Anyway, the struggle to keep one another’s spirits up, our eyes on the ball and the necessary points that must be repeated time and again against the agitprop from a powerful “official Catholic media” cabal of Modernists and papalotrous flaks will continue, since it simply must.

    There is a war on, after all.

    And your prayer that we neither fail to defend the Catholic Faith nor fall into any sin in doing so will be most appreciated.

    • Amen! Well said.

      I have followed AQ for a long time and appreciate the insights from everyone. We’re all struggling here. For the first time since returning to the fold I feel like I’m outside looking in. I have personally felt the wounds, the sadness, the frustration, and yes, even the anger. Every new story brings that lurching feeling one gets when descending the stairs in the dark, thinking you’ve reached the end, and taking that last step into… nothingness. I’ve felt that far too often.

      Is it the final apostacy? No one can know. If it is, perhaps it’s a blessing that it’s coming now before we lose too many more souls.

      Nothing happens but that the Father wills it. And may His will be done while we wait in joyful hope for the coming of our Lord.

      Ave Maria!

  4. First of all, I never called the pope a buffoon; I merely asked if his posture seemed like buffoonery in the midst of apostasy.

    Second, I never intended for this post to be a point of division among faithful Catholics and I apologize if it has wounded anyone’s sensitivities.

    Third, I am the kind of a person who tends to call a spade a spade, at least as it appears to me and I do not apologize for that tendency. What this pope has said concerning the efficacy of false religions, that alone, is cause for me to doubt his understanding of the Faith.

    Fourth, although I did mention the FFI and the nuns in my post I could have referred to a number of different groups who have been similarly persecuted. I find it immensely difficult to understand why this persecution emanates from the Chair of Peter.

    Fifth, I do not claim in any way to be an authoritative voice in the Church but simply a person who has been trained and educated under much different circumstances than most of those who hold the reins of authority in the Church today.

    Finally, it seems to me that if we do not speak out about what is happening in our beloved Church then we will be complicit in the destruction of the Faith in many quarters, including, most regrettably, our young people. They are the future of the Church on earth and or best hope for a return to Tradition, given proper training and catechesis.

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