From CNN: Pope “Could” (tentatively) Support Sodomitical Civil Unions

Pope Francis: Church could support civil unions

By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN) – Pope Francis reaffirmed the Catholic Church’s opposition to gay marriage on Wednesday, but suggested in a newspaper interview that it could support some types of civil unions.

The Pope reiterated the church’s longstanding teaching that “marriage is between a man and a woman.” However, he said, “We have to look at different cases and evaluate them in their variety.”

States, for instance, justify civil unions as a way to provide economic security to cohabitating couples, the Pope said in a wide-ranging interview published Wednesday in Corriere della Sera, an Italian daily. State-sanctioned unions are thus driven by the need to ensure rights like access to health care, Francis added.

A number of Catholic bishops have supported civil unions for same-sex couples, including Pope Francis when he was Archbishop of Buenos Aires in 2010, according to reports in National Catholic Reporter and The New York Times.

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But Wednesday’s comments are “the first time a Pope has indicated even tentative acceptance of civil unions,” according to Catholic News Service.

Pope Francis, who marks his first year in office on March 13, has sought to set a more tolerant tone for his 1 billion-member church and suggested that a broad range of topics are at least open for discussion.

In January, the Pope recalled a little girl in Buenos Aires who told her teacher that she was sad because “my mother’s girlfriend doesn’t like me.”

“The situation in which we live now provides us with new challenges which sometimes are difficult for us to understand,” the Pope told leaders of religious orders, adding that the church “must be careful not to administer a vaccine against faith to them.”

The Vatican later denied that those comments signaled an opening toward same-sex unions.

Last June, Francis famously refused to judge gay priests in comments that ricocheted around the world. He has also said that the church should not “interfere” in the spiritual lives of gays and lesbians.

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Support of same-sex unions of any type is fiercely contested by many Catholic church leaders.

In Wednesday’s interview, Francis also addressed several other controversial issues, including the Catholic Church’s ban on contraception, the role of women and the devastating clergy sexual abuse scandal.

On contraception, the Pope praised Pope Paul VI for having the “courage” to “go against the majority” when restating the ban in 1968. But, Francis said, the church must also be “merciful” and “attentive to concrete situations.”

Contraception and church’s ban on divorced Catholics receiving holy communion, will likely be addressed at major meetings of Catholic bishops in Rome in 2014 and 2015.

“We must give a response. But to do so, we must reflect much in depth,” the Pope said Wednesday.

On the role of women in the church, an issue of particular concern to Catholics in the United States, the Pope hinted that changes could be in the works.

“Women must be present in all of the places where decisions are taken,” Francis said in the newspaper interview, but the church must consider more than “functional” roles for women. To that end, Catholic leaders are engaged in “deep reflection” on women’s role in the church, he said.

On the sexual abuse of children by Catholic clergy, a scandal that has rocked the church in the United States, the Pope said the abuse has left “very deep wounds” on victims.

In response, the church has done more than other institutions to be open and transparent about sexual abuse by its employees, Francis said. “But the Church is the only one to be attacked.”

A United Nations panel criticized Catholic leaders last month in a hard-hitting report on clergy sexual abuse.

The report said the Vatican “has not acknowledged the extent of the crimes committed, has not taken the necessary measures to address cases of child sexual abuse and to protect children, and has adopted policies and practices which have led to the continuation of the abuse by and the impunity of the perpetrators.”

The Vatican said it would study the U.N. report.

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On Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI, who has surprised church-watchers with public appearances after saying he would live a cloistered life in retirement, Francis said he considers his predecessor a “wise grandfather.”

“The Pope Emeritus is not a statue in a museum,” Pope Francis said. Rather, the two men have decided that Benedict should participate in the church’s public life rather than live a shuttered life.

“I thought about grandparents who with their wisdom, their advice, strengthen families and don’t deserve to end up in an old folks home,” Francis said.

Finally, he may sometimes wear a cape, but don’t call Pope Francis a Superman, the popular pontiff said.

“To paint the Pope as a sort of Superman, a kind of star, seems offensive to me,” Francis told Corriere della Sera. “The Pope is a man who laughs, cries, sleeps soundly and has friends like everyone else. A normal person.”

Earlier this year, graffiti depicting a muscle-bound and flying Francis appeared on walls near Vatican City, but the Pope said Wednesday that he doesn’t like the “mythology” surrounding his papacy, which marks its first anniversary on March 13.

For instance, Francis debunked the idea that he sneaks out of the Vatican at night to feed the homeless.

“It never occurred to me,” he said.

(CNN’s Delia Gallagher assisted in translating Pope Francis’ remarks from the Italian.)

Daniel Burke – CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

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14 comments on “From CNN: Pope “Could” (tentatively) Support Sodomitical Civil Unions

  1. These secular, lefty media morons really jump to conclusions and create something that isn’t there. I read Jorge’s interview and while he could have (and should have) been more clear I think what he meant was non sexual unions could be recognized by CIVIL governments to protect property, healthcare etc. That’s my humble opinion on it. But with Jorge, anything is possible.

    • While we can’t predict the future, my worst fear is he’ll partially cave in, at the end. He’s on record supporting them in Buenos Aires – outright. There will be a HUGE push by the American bish-apparatchiks, joined by the sour Krauts and they will be joined by every loony tune with his own boy toy and wearing a mitre, all given supporting cover by a massive media blitz in the US and the EU to soften things up. They have months to do all their agitprop in advance.

      By then, the Trads will have been only further marginalized in the media and they will have plenty of time to draw on their reserve forces among Western governments.

      Take another look at El Che’s comments regarding contraception.

      While it cannot be said he’s racing from the couch to swing open wide the front door the minute someone rings the bell, he’s already at the door and opening it up a crack.

      That’s all it will take.

      I’m not saying it’s a done deal. But to the libs, it is. And that’s all the media needs to hammer the whole world over the head with it until hell won’t have it anymore.

      It is impossible to ignore the very real possibility that this pope’s mind is complete mush. He’s pliable and already 98% Leftist on a host of issues. His religion is one of convergence – a political solution for every theological problem raised by the specter of mean, harsh, judgmental Tradition and the Perennial Magisterium.

      • I agree Gpmtrad, I believe Jorge is a devout modernist, and a threat to the Church, and as a traditional Catholic I don’t trust him to uphold the de-fide dogmas of Holy Mother Church, and yes, I believe he personally is in favor of civil unions, whether normal or homo and I think he wishes Paul VI never upheld the Church’s ban on contraception. But he speaks out of both sides of his mouth, and the lefty media runs with it. I don’t think he can convince enough Cardinals and bishops to go along with it. Just like this divorce and remarriage nonsense that he and Walter (the heretic) Kasper are trying to implement. Even modernists like Cardinal Muller are fighting this. The media loves Jorge because he is a liberal, but fail to understand that unlike their boy at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave who uses the U.S. Constitution as toilet paper Jorge can’t do the same with Holy Scripture and the Catechism. Sorry for the long winded post but I think the lefty world media is just as bad and to blame for the world and Church’s state for the last fifty years as the modernists inside the Church.

  2. By the way, to have this Bishop of Rome actually uphold Church teaching on marriage between a man and a woman in a public interview is a lenten miracle in itself!

    • He didn’t do any such thing. He said what should have been said, then added a “however”. We’ve seen time and again that Satan lives in “however” and “in a certain sense.” Jorge is not an imbecile – he is evil.

      May his reign be short.

  3. Since it’s Ash Wednesday, I will refrain from saying what I really feel like saying.
    This line from the article caught my eye, however:

    Contraception and church’s ban on divorced Catholics receiving holy communion, will likely be addressed at major meetings of Catholic bishops in Rome in 2014 and 2015.”

    The Church’s infallible ban on contraception is now up for review?! If that’s the case, things are really falling apart!

  4. Hang in there, guys. It will only get worse before anything improves.

    I’m reading up on the Anabaptists these days. History is repeating itself.

    When I get time I’ll have to quote the scene where the Anabaptist teenager tried to moon the bishop’s troops and they land an artillery shell right on him!


  5. The Vatican spin machine and damage control have really been working overtime for the last year. Maybe someday the conciliar church will learn do what the pre-conciliar Church did and just uphold Church dogma in a clear and concise way, instead trying to appease the world, heretics and false religions.

  6. Every time I turn around, this pope is giving another interview to a secular newspaper.

    Enough with this. Just STOP it, Holy Father! It’s unseemly and imprudent, and only serves to confuse the faithful and embolden our enemies.
    These people do not love the Church. In fact, most of them hate the Catholic Church in a deep way. There’s no good to be had from constantly giving interviews. No good at all.

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