Bergoglio’s Ignorant Attack on Traditional Catholicism Intensifies

[A shocking screed lacking discretion, distinctions and practical knowledge. But he gave it, anyway!]

October 17, 2013. ( In his daily morning Mass, Pope Francis talked about Christians who turn their faith into an ideology. He explained that this makes people hostile and arrogant, and pushes them away from their peers. The root of such behavior, the Pope said, is a lack of prayer.

“The faith becomes ideology and ideology frightens. Ideology chases away the people. It creates distances between people and it distances the Church from the people. But it is a serious illness, this Christian ideology.”

Pope Francis also added there is a difference between praying and simply saying prayers. People carried away by ideology, he concluded, do not pray, rather they repeat memorized prayers.

Source: Vatican Radio

“The faith passes, so to speak, through a distiller and becomes ideology. And ideology does not beckon [people]. In ideologies there is not Jesus: in his tenderness, his love, his meekness. And ideologies are rigid, always. Of every sign: rigid. And when a Christian becomes a disciple of the ideology, he has lost the faith: he is no longer a disciple of Jesus, he is a disciple of this attitude of thought… For this reason Jesus said to them: ‘You have taken away the key of knowledge.’ The knowledge of Jesus is transformed into an ideological and also moralistic knowledge, because these close the door with many requirements.”

“The faith becomes ideology and ideology frightens. Ideology chases away the people. It creates distances between people and it distances the Church from the people. But it is a serious illness, this ideology in Christians. It is an illness, but it is not new, eh? Already the Apostle John, in his first Letter, spoke of this. Christians who lose the faith and prefer the ideologies. His attitude is: be rigid, moralistic, ethical, but without kindness. This can be the question, no? But why is it that a Christian can become like this? Just one thing: this Christian does not pray. And if there is no prayer, you always close the door.”

“When a Christian does not pray, this happens. And his witness is an arrogant witness.” He who does not pray is “arrogant, is proud, is sure of himself. He is not humble. He seeks his own advancement.” Instead, he said, “when a Christian prays, he is not far from the faith; he speaks with Jesus.” And, the Pope said, “I say to pray, I do not say to say prayers, because these teachers of the law said many prayers” in order to be seen. Jesus, instead, says: “when you pray, go into your room and pray to the Father in secret, heart to heart.” The pope continued: “It is one thing to pray, and another thing to say prayers.”

“These do not pray, abandoning the faith and transforming it into moralistic, casuistic ideology, without Jesus. And when a prophet or a good Christian reproaches them, they the same that they did with Jesus: ‘When Jesus left, the scribes and Pharisees began to act with hostility toward him’ – they are ideologically hostile – ‘and to interrogate him about many things,’ – they are insidious – ‘for they were plotting to catch him at something he might say.’ They are not transparent. Ah, poor things, they are people dishonored by their pride. We ask the Lord for Grace, first: never to stop praying to never lose the faith; to remain humble, and so not to become closed, which closes the way to the Lord.”

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27 comments on “Bergoglio’s Ignorant Attack on Traditional Catholicism Intensifies

  1. Gird your loins folks. This man would appear to be an enemy of the Faith. It seems to me that we are gearing up for a war within the Church. The previous pontiff’s reign was merely respite from the struggle and that struggle is about to go nuclear, at least that’s the way it seems to me.

    • .Agreed. And it is exactly what the cardinals wanted last March, knowing Bergoglio would provide it.

      This is no drill.

    • I remember that Pope Francis said that the church will fall like a house of cards. He appeared to be indicating that if people were old fashioned Catholics that they were going to cause the church to fall. My experience has seen the opposite. I am 75 and remember well how we had plenty of priests and religious but after the changes, the house of cards began to fall. I believe that the opposite of what he says is true. If the church goes on to more liberalism, the faith will be watered down and THAT will fall like a house of cards because it will no longer stand for anything but Marxist values and false ecumenism. I do not want a church like that. I will stick to the traditional mode because that is more solid. The other way is too unstable and I don’t do well with instability. The papacy will also loose credibility if it goes on the liberal spin and people won’t follow him seriously anyway. If everything depends on your own conscience, well, then we can follow our own conscience and stay traditional even if he doesn’t.

  2. Pope Francis also added there is a difference between praying and simply saying prayers. People carried away by ideology, he concluded, do not pray, rather they repeat memorized prayers.

    Just wow. I guess Our Lord was carried away by ideology when he gave us the “Our Father” and told us to pray it.

    One bomb after another, each one carefully targeted at the traditional underpinnings of the Faith.

    • Taken objectively, according to accepted lexicographical standards, common sense and a prudent comprehension of the Catholic Faith, it appears to be exactly that, LA tradcath.

      Exactly that.

    • Explains why the Pope was concerned about those “Pelagians” who offered him a spiritual bouquet of over three thousand rosaries:

      “I share with you two concerns. One is the Pelagian current that there is in the Church at this moment. There are some restorationist groups. I know some, it fell upon me to receive them in Buenos Aires. And one feels as if one goes back 60 years! Before the Council… One feels in 1940… An anecdote, just to illustrate this, it is not to laugh at it, I took it with respect, but it concerns me; when I was elected, I received a letter from one of these groups, and they said: “Your Holiness, we offer you this spiritual treasure: 3,525 rosaries.” Why don’t they say, ‘we pray for you, we ask…’, but this thing of counting… And these groups return to practices and to disciplines that I lived through – not you, because you are not old – to disciplines, to things that in that moment took place, but not now, they do not exist today… “

      • I guess he is uncomfortable with the rosary, then. I was taught that the rosary was a wonderful and powerful prayer that brought miracles. Of course, one can pray extemporaneously but learned prayers are great, too. All prayer is great provided it comes from the heart. Spiritual bouquets have been a part of the church for centuries. Trads are not the only Catholics who use prayers said like the rosary and the chaplet of Divine Mercy. From what I have read, it appears that the words coming from Francis are more protestant than Catholic.

  3. As anyone noticed that this Pope expresses nothing but the utmost respect for not only all non-Catholics but also their false religions? He only chastises his fellow Catholics for being the Catholics their forefathers were. He’s kind of an anti-pope.

  4. What manner of speaking is this? It is beneath a pope. He sounds like a community agitator from Chicago’s south side. He uses Alinsky tactics: isolate your opposition, label them, put them in a hole that they have to dig themselves out of. Pelagians? Given to ideology? A serious illness? Is this the way to mend a broken reed? Is this the way to lead in love?

    It’s clear that this pope is not interested in winning over our hearts. He is deliberately driving us into the catacombs and drawing the ire of his fellow travelers upon us. He is Obama in a white cassock. He is fomenting a movement, not unifying in charity. It is he who is driven by ideology.

  5. It is not clear what the Pope is talking about.
    Perhaps he is not feeling well again.

    • “You know, Andy, that new pope over there in Rome, what’s his name…Frank?”

      “Francis, Barn. They don’t do nicknames in the Vatican. He’s a Francis.”

      “Okay, well you see, this Francis, he’s aimin’ his sights at old-fashioned folks and sayin’ all sorts of things about them, and people are gettin’ upset!”

      “What sort of things, Barn?”

      “Well, he’s calling ’em Pelagians and restorationists and sayin’ they want to go back to 1940 and live in a self-referential church. Why, we already got a self-referential church right here in Mayberry! We paid for it ourselves, didn’t we?”

      “Yep. That’s a whole lot of bake sales and raffles that done that.”

      “Well, Andy, I’m just plain troubled by this! This man cannot shut up and everything he says is confusing me! Beats all Andy, just beats all.”

      “Well, that’s just the way popes talk these days, Barn. They give interviews and speak what we call off-the-cuff. Besides, he’s talkin’ to the Catholics. That stuff don’t matter to us down here in Mayberry. Folks here just read their Bibles and listen to the preacher. Don’t let it bother you, Barn.”

      “But Andy, he’s tellin’ folks they just need to follow their conscience and skip all the rules! And you know, Andy, Rule Number One is “obey the rules”. And sin, he doesn’t even mention it! Well, Andy, that’s one subject you just can’t talk enough about: sin.
      I’m real worried about this, Andy. This is BIG! BIG! BIG BIG! Really Big, and someone over there needs to nip it in the bud before it falls like a house of cards! Nip it in the bud!”

      “You don’t like change, do you, Barn?”

      “No I don’t. You know when they put that stamp machine in the post office? That just frosted me!”

  6. Aunt Bee: Opie’s fast at work on the script for The Bergoglio Code now.
    It’s just amazing what the Illuminati can do with an ambiguous Pope with a tendency for awkward
    and imprecise statements which wonder away from Catholic doctrine!

    Opie: Do you think Pope Francis is speaking esoterically in Rosicrucian code, Aunt Bee?

    Floyd the Barber: Opie, there’s a camping trip coming up I thought you might like to go on…

    Sheriff Andy: Well, that sure is a fine version of “On Eagle’s Wings”!
    What a fine g’itar that gal is playin’. They sound just like Peter, Paul, and Mary
    or The Kingston Trio on Ed Sullivan, don’t they, Barn’ ?

  7. Captain Kirk: That’s funny! A kid from Mayberry as a puppet for the Illuminati.

    Deputy Barney Fife: Did you hear that, Gomer?
    The Illuminati in Mayberry!
    We better call Andy!
    Gomer: Shazam!

    Opie: Paw! Wanna hear about my new movie idea?

  8. Sheriff Andy: Now, Barn’, this here’s Miss Sinclair from the Illuminaughty.
    She’ll be playin’ the Goddess of Reason in Opie’s new movie.

    Deputy Barney Fife: Goat ritual???!!!
    I’m a Methodist, Andy! You know I can’t do that!

  9. Opie: Paw, is it true cornflakes were invented to decrease the libido
    of the working classes and for population control?
    We had a woman from the NEA and PETA at school giving the Frankfurt School lecture and she said that…

    Aunt Bee: Why, that’s very interesting, Opie!
    I think I heard that at one of our Planned Parenthood chapter meetings.
    Now, you run along to Walmart and get your flu shot!
    Mercury will do that twice as fast.

    Gomer: I eat cornflakes. Shazam!

  10. Opie: Yeah, Paw.
    We went campin’ with Floyd
    and he was tellin’ me about the Bogomils, Oscar Wilde, and how Plato
    used to like to hug his close friends and all and then we watched some Noel Coward movies and…

    Barney Fife: Did you hear that, Gomer?

    Sheriff Andy: Have you ever been campin’, Mary?
    Mary: Not recently. But I’ve been scuba diving in lagoons.

  11. “Gomer, did you see what just happened?! Opie got stuck in that time machine Goober was building, and came out the other side 40 years older, and a liberal, Academy Award-winning film director! And now he’s going to make a movie in Mayberry about the Illuminati! I don’t feel too good right now.”

    “Shazzam! Goober should have stuck to fixing cars like I told him! I knew that time machine contraption was no good from the start!”

  12. Fonzie: Alright, so, like, when did the Illuminati start letting nerds join, Cunningham?
    Richie: I’m sorry, Fonz.
    They said I had to break the motorcycle before I could become a full member.
    It’s a rule or something that the higher-ups have in Bavaria. I don’t know.
    But they said they would say my movies were good in all the magazines, newspapers, and cable shows if I joined.
    Fonzie: And all you have to do is break my motorcycle?
    Why didn’t I think of that? No wonder nerds are running the world!

  13. Opie: Sure, Paw.
    Aunt Bee says she’s goin’ to teach me how to raise kundalini up my spine,
    and all about the chakras, and Madam Blavatsky, the Tibetan Masters of Wisdom in Agartha and Shambala,
    and cool stuff like that.

    Sheriff Andy: So that’s how you raise kundalini up your chakras!
    Well, I’ll be. How ’bout that, Barn’.
    Barney Fife: Well, I declare.
    Sheriff Andy: I’ve got to tell Helen so we can try this out.
    Barney Fife: How do they get their legs twisted around like that, Andy?
    Sheriff Andy: Can you do that, Aunt Bee?

  14. Aunt Bee: Why, Opie, you’re learning so fast!
    I just knew the 4-H Club would stimulate your mind!

    Opie: Sure, Aunt Bee!
    You just concentrate real hard, close your eyes, and pull the kundalini up from your butt along your spine,
    taking deep breaths while doing rhythmic Kegel exercises and chanting your mantras in Sanskrit.
    It works better after some hash. Floyd told me all about it on our campin’ trip.
    Here, let me show you…

    Gomer: Shaza’am!

  15. As St. Louis De Montfort stated: Devotion to the Rosary is a clear sign of predestination……

  16. You again? Beat it, punk.

  17. Aunt Bee: Come along, Opie!
    It’s time to hear some more on Madam Blavatsky, the chakras, and the Masters of Wisdom.

    Opie: Sure, Aunt Bee!
    We were learnin’ in school ’bout how’s we’re superior to all them other countries because of the Enlightenment and all.
    Seems, we’re far ahead of everybody else in progress and Enlightenment.
    Yessum. Not like them Dark Ages that keep other countries down in ignorance and superstition.

    Aunt Bee: Why, Opie, that’s wonderful!
    Now, come along and let’s learn some more about Madam Blavatsky and the chakras.

    Opie: As soon as I’m finished my breakfast.
    I have to finish eating my cornflakes to keep my libido down,
    all for population control and all.

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