Paul VI Canonization

This was just posted on The Remnant site today.

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God help us.

Mary

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24 comments on “Paul VI Canonization

  1. The following are two comments which I posted on another thread:

    1: Correct me if I’m wrong, but I remember being told that cannonization is “infallible,” but beatification is not. If so, then this cannonization of Pope Paul VI will either be correct or it will not happen.

    2 (which was in reply to my first): I checked my sources (asked an SSPX priest ) and it would seem that I was partly wrong in my above statement. This priest refered me to some articles on the topic which appeared in the Angelus magazine, one of which is found here: www.angelusonline.org/index.php?section=articles&subsection=show_article&article_id=3213

    Basically, cannonization has been considdered traditionally to carry the mark of infallibility, but this is due to the extreme care which was given to the process and to the very small number of those who were actually cannonized. However, the rules have been loosened since Vatican II, and cannonizations have become an almost daily occurence in Rome. It is therefore arguable that cannonizations performed under these conditions (without the proper care and in a ramrod way) are highly questionable as regards the quality of infallibility, to say the least.

    No doubt, for the good of the faithful and the defense of the Faith and of sound Doctrine, these cannonizations may have to be reviewed and declarations made concerning them when Rome returns to its senses.

    I apologize for any confusion my above comment may have caused.

    • I believe this is a beatification – the same level as Bl.JP2

      • Yes, thus not infallible.

        However, considered such – already – by millions of Santo Subito groupies.

        Thus, a matter of no small practical weight. Something like a chess game in which castling ( i.e., a Vatican maneuvre ) may not, at first, suggest an immediate threat. A few shrewd moves later, however, and the opponent ( a traditionalist ) finds himself in very poor condition to fend off relentless onslaughts.

  2. Considering what took place under the Pauline pontificate concerning the Mass, is it really any wonder that canonizations are in the mess they are?

    • Umm, on that note, is there anything in the mainstream Catholic Church that isn’t a mess? Seriously, can you think of anything that isn’t at least tainted with liberalism?

      • The Church is supernatural and, de fide, immune against liberalism as against any other error.

        The human element, even were it 99.999999999% in error, even apostasy, would not and could not change that fact.

        But it sure makes it difficult, doesn’t it?

        And to directly answer you, Luc – not much!

  3. As Opus Dei needed their own saint to silence those who recognize it as a cult, Vatican II needs a sainted pope to silence those who recognize its documents as flawed. I pray that this is more than the Good God will allow.

    • Here’s a good primer on the errors ( 25 to whet your appetite ) of V II….

      www.catholictreasures.com/articles/25errors.html

      • It is also noteworthy that, while a Monsignor, Papa Montini was highly progressive in his liturgical experimentation – long before his ascendancy and eventual election as pope.

        One such experiment was to gather university students near the altar during the Canon.

        Remember, this was long BEFORE Vatican II and all progressivism was condemned by Pope Pius XII in Mediator Dei.

      • RE: 25 errors

        This explains the homilies of the now. VII turned Catholic priests into, first and foremost, ambassadors of the New Age:

        The following are some of the 37 “theses,” extracted by
        Hermann Humpert, from the book of Wojtyla, “Person
        and Action:”

        Thesis No. 15 – God is not an historical being who
        works with man – and man does not cooperate with
        God, but only acts in cooperation with other men. Religion
        doesn’t take its origin from divine revelation, but
        is simply the result of human imagination. The
        Catholic religion is no different from other cults.

        Thesis No. 16 – Divine Revelation is impossible to
        prove.

        Thesis No. 17 – The only real significance of the New
        Testament is found in the philosophical explanations.

        Thesis No. 18 – Each divine mystery is to be considered
        as a variation or nuance of a system of pure thought.
        Traditional dogmatic Christianity is one of these erroneous
        systems.

        Thesis No. 21 – A purely human community, united and
        universal; this is the true Christian church according
        to the meaning of the Gospel, understood in a new way,
        quite contrary to the existing totalitarian church.

        Thesis No. 22 – The principles of “dialogue” and
        “neighbor” are those which lead to the salvation of
        Christianity, not the Revelation of creation, Redemption,
        or the Universal Judgement.

        Thesis No. 24 – Salvation – the self-realization of humanity
        – doesn’t have an eternal nature. It will not
        bring to mortal man any resurrection of the body. The
        naive hope of eternal life – and also the belief in the Assumption
        and the return of the Lord in His body – must
        be conceived only symbolically.

        Thesis No. 25 – In the other world after death, we will
        not be rewarded for our good deeds, nor punished for
        our sins.

        Thesis No. 27 – Even those who have helped the world
        become more civilized will die, and in this way, they
        will find salvation.

        Thesis No. 28 – How can man create his soul so easily?
        Because he did not create it from nothing, but from existing
        matter: the animal soul, evolved phylogenetically,
        which he received from his parents, his ancestors
        and the apes and he can only improve.

        Thesis No. 32 – There is no reason to worry for the
        souls of aborted babies. They are safe as original sin
        does not exist.

        Thesis No. 33 – There is no need to be baptized or to
        use other traditional forms of initiation of non-Christians
        or non-believers. As well there is no need to convert
        followers of other religions.

        Thesis No. 35 – Man is the visible God. To see man is to
        see God.

        In 1970, the book of Card. Wojtyla, “Person and Action,”
        was discussed at the University of Krakow, and
        the Thomist teachers expressed their criticism for that
        disrespectful mixture of Thomism and phenomenology!

        padrepioandchiesaviva.com/uploads/Chiesa_viva_430_S_en_tip-web.pdf

  4. padrepioandchiesaviva.com/uploads/Chi___don_Villa_OK_en.pdf

    Anyone following this beatification issue really ought to invest a bit of time in reading the pdf I’ve linked. I believe it speaks for itself.

    If I may, things really have been and continue to be MUCH worse than is recognized.

    MUCH worse.

  5. chris torey on said:

    Never one to repeat myself, but, The Church in Rome is finished. It has been hilacked by freemasons who will never relinquish their hold.

    Only Mary can help us.

  6. “Ignore him and make him ignored” – the means by which, apart from the more deadly kind, Fr Villa was ‘exiled’, after the death of Pope Pius XII; yet, at 93, he still fights the good fight:

    “Fr. Villa was aware of the fact that Card. Pietro Palazzini had sent a letter to the Postulator for the “cause of beatification” of Paul VI that contained three names of the last homosexual lovers of Paul VI. Pietro Palazzini was an authority in this field,because the Cardinal held two binders of documents that demonstrated, unequivocally, the impure and unnatural vice of Paul VI. Then, Father Villa wrote a letter to the Postulator, referring to what he had known from Card. Palazzini. The book “Paul VI beatified?”was released in February, 1998. I took on the task of organizing the shipment of the first 5,000 copies. Pope, Cardinals, Bishops and thousands of Italian Priests were given a copy of this book simultaneously. From Rome, someone told us that the Vicar of the Pope,Cardinal Ruini, was furious. He wondered who had financed the printing and mailing of these books, free of charge, to thousands of members of the Italian Clergy. When Father Villa told me about this telephone call, smiling, he said: «We should respond to the Vicar of His Holiness, that the lenders are three Persons and their names are: Father, Son and Holy Spirit.”

    exactly what is a post concilliar ‘saint?’

  7. the people silenced yet again:

    “in 1984 when the personal secretary of Paul VI, Mason Msgr. Pasquale Macchi decided to erect a monument to Pope Paul VI, in the square of the Shrine of Our Lady, Crowned, on the Sacred Mount of Varese (a city 30 Km north of Milan). The people didn’t want to know anything about this monument, but the visit of Pope John Paul II, in 1984, was instrumental in silencing this opposition. The monument, known by the oddity of having a sheep with five legs, was inaugurated on May 24, 1986, in the presence of the Mason Mr. Giulio Andreotti, the Mason Secretary of State Card. Agostino Casaroli and Mason Msgr. Pasquale Macchi, personal Secretary of Paul VI, whose name appears in the “List of Pecorelli”in conjunction with that one of Card. Casaroli. In November, 2000, I published the book: “A Masonic Monument to Paul VI”, where I ( Dr. Franco Adessa) showed that, in this sculpture, Freemasonry had praised his “man” Paul VI as the “Supreme Head” of Freemasonry,and as a “Jewish Pope,”and glorified him for his “three acts of Masonic justice,”,that is: the betrayal of Christ, of the Church and of the History of Christian nations. The book of Father Villa, “Paul VI beatified?” was released twelve years after the inauguration of this monument, and ends with this sentence: “A Paul VI, that is, who betrayed Christ, the Church and History.” Freemasonry had “carved”these “betrayals”in this dismal bronze monument, Father Villa, instead, had “carved” them in a theological-historical treatise of 284 pages”.

    This important stuff – if a priest or a bishop ignores queries or concerns of the laity, it seems likely that the laity a suffering the ‘exile of the ignored’, explored in the PDF – you can see this policy seems to have become second nature under JPII.

  8. I am seriously concerned that Chris has, largely, nailed it.

    At least, it explains so much about the past 50 years, and the decades of intriguge leading up to the Council, that it cannot be simply dismissed.

  9. I posted this elsewhere, but I’ll add it here for everyone. Fr. Luigi Villa died on Nov. 18, 2012 at age 94.
    *
    Didn’t JPII redo the whole beatification and canonization process during his pontificate?

    • Yes, I believe it was under the Santo Subito regime that “sainthood” became a mere commodity, reflective of whatever trendy postconciliar “thing” needed a “patron” to legitimize it.

      Let us not overlook the “beatifications” that occur nowadays in the L’OR, as well. To see the names of J*** L***** or M****** J****** lauded in a publication begun under the pious, aritocratic auspices of the Pacelli family ( i.e., Pius XII ) is an outrage.

      • From a noteworthy, highly reliable source, Randy Engel…..

        This review appeared in Catholic Family News in March 2011

        Paul VI Beatified?
        By Father Luigi Villa Th. D.

        Reviewed by Randy Engel

        Introduction

        Some books are difficult to review because of the sheer density of facts and documentation contained therein. Others, because the subject matter evokes deep, visceral distress on the part of the reviewer. Paul VI Beatified? is both fact-filled and disturbing.

        More than 30,000 pages of encyclicals, Conciliar documents, General Audience talks, and news stories taken from the pontificate of Paul VI were distilled by Father Villa, editor of the traditional magazine Chiesa viva, including hundreds of photos which, by themselves, visually tell a story of a pope whose 15-year reign was marked by grave deviations from the Depositum Fidei. Little wonder that Father Villa’s book is credited with bringing the early steps leading up to the beatification, and ultimately to the canonization of Paul VI as a saint, to a sudden halt. For every Catholic who has ever asked himself, “How did the Revolution in the Catholic Church come about?” it is essential reading.

        Blueprint for NewChurch

        In the second year of his pontificate, on August 6, 1964, just six weeks prior to the opening of the Third Session of the Second Vatican Council, Paul VI presented his “blueprint” for NewChurch in his first encyclical, Ecclesiam Suam. Unlike his pre-Conciliar predecessors, the pope was dissatisfied with the Catholic Church established by Christ and decided to create one more to his image and likeness. Thus he invited Holy Mother Church to set a new ecclesiastic course in a Progressive ship quite unlike the traditional Barque of Saint Peter, and to venture into Modernist waters more deadly than the Church has ever known. In hindsight, the reader can only gasp at how blithely and with what utopian fervor the new pope embraced the challenge of the auto-destruction of the Church in the name of “renovation,” “renewal,” “reform,” “the dialogue of salvation,” an “openness to the world,” — an auto-destruction which Father Villa carefully documents by chapter and verse.

        The Cult of Man — A Form of Idolatry

        In Chapters I and II of Paul VI Beatified? Father Villa examines the pope’s obsession with the Cult of Man and his habituated taste for the naturalistic and the novel at the expense of the supernatural and tradition, thereby turning Christianity into a horizontal, earth-bound rather than a vertical, heaven-bound religion.

        If, in our desire to respect a man’s freedom and dignity, his conversion to the true faith is not the immediate object of our dialogue with him, we nevertheless try to help him and to dispose him for a fuller sharing of ideas and convictions. Ecclesiam Suam: 79.

        But we call upon those who term themselves modern humanists, and who have renounced the transcendent value of the highest realities, to give the council credit at least for one quality and to recognize our own new type of humanism: we, too, in fact, we more than any others, honor mankind;

        We have the cult of man. Address of Paul VI, Council’s Last General Meeting,

        December 7, 1965, Italian Translation.

        A New Spirituality for Modern Man

        As Father Villa clearly documents, since Paul VI’s NewChurch represents a new religion, it necessarily requires a new Spirituality along with a number of other accessories like a new Gospel, a new Ecclesiology, a new Theology, a new Mass and a new Priesthood.

        Chapter II tackles the issue of Paul VI’s love affair with the world, and his admonishment to the Faithful to “love the world,” a directive which finds little support in either Holy Scripture or the Magisterium of the Church or the writings of the Saints and Church Fathers or any of the pre-Conciliar popes:

        Jesus answered: My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would certainly strive that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now my kingdom is not from hence. John 18:37

        Love not the world, nor the things which are in the world. If any man

        Love the world, the charity of the Father is not in him. I John 2:15

        Adulterers, know you not that the friendship of this world is the enemy of God? Whosoever therefore will be a friend of this world, becometh an enemy of God. James 4:5.

        Father Villa presents Paul VI’s novel interpretation of Man’s new relationship to the world taken from the pope’s NewGospel and delivered at his General Audience of July 3, 1974.

        We have certainly intended to talk of the severity of the Saints toward the ills of the world. Many are still familiar with the books of asceticism that contain a globally negative judgment upon earthly corruption. But it is also certain that we do live in a different spiritual climate, having been invited, especially by the recent Council, to bring to the modern world an optimistic look towards its values, its achievements…

        The celebrated Constitution Gaudium at Spes is in its whole an encouragement toward this new spiritual approach.

        In this early chapter, Father Villa introduces one of his book’s major themes — the infiltration of Freemasonry, which has been condemned by pre-Conciliar popes from time immemorial — into the Catholic Church, in general, and the papal office under the pontificate of Paul VI. It is in his writings on Paul VI’s affinity for the tenets of Freemasonry, as well as the pope’s attachment to all ideologies flowing from the Left including Socialism and Communism, that one finds the author’s most interesting and original investigative findings and in-depth insights.

        The story behind the infamous “Pecorelli’s List,” which this writer has a copy of, albeit yellowed and crackled with age, makes for fascinating reading.

        Investigative journalist and a member of the elite Propaganda Due (P2) Lodge, Carmine “Mino” Pecorelli, Director of L’Osservatorio Politico, a press agency specializing in political scandals and crimes, was murdered on March 20, 1979. Prior to his death he published what became known as “Pecorelli’s List.” It contained the names (code names and card names as well) of alleged Freemasons in high level Vatican offices during the reign of Paul VI. Among the prominent prelates identified as Freemasons were Jean Cardinal Villo, whose family is believed to have historic ties to the Rosicrucian Lodge; Agostino Cardinal Casaroli; Ugo Cardinal Poletti; Sebastiano Cardinal Baggio; Joseph Cardinal Suenens; and Archbishop Annibale Bugnini, C.M.; and Archbishop Paul Casimir Marcinkus, to name a few. If the list is correct, and there is much collaborating evidence to indicate that the list was valid, Paul VI had surrounded himself with Freemasons. As Father Villa notes, none of these high ranking Church members ever came forward to challenge the list. For centuries the leaders of Freemasonry had awaited “a pope according to our needs” who would help compromise the Catholic Church and usher in an era of a “Masonic Universal Democracy.” They found him in Paul VI.

        Paul VI and the Great Betrayals

        Chapter VII, titled “Opening to Communism” details Paul VI’s tragic betrayal of anti-Communist prelates József Cardinal Mindszenty, Josyf Ivanovycè Cardinal Slipyi, and Cardinal Stephen Trochta and the millions upon millions of Hungarians, Ukrainians, and Czechoslovakians and other victims of Soviet Communism they represented. It is absolutely heart-wrenching. However, Father Villa saves his criticism of Paul VI’s greatest betrayal for last — the creation of his NewMass and the banishment of the traditional Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. This one chapter alone should be enough to squelch any talk of Paul VI’s beatification forever. Speaking of the “fruits” of this particularly grievous betrayal, Father Villa writes:

        … the “fruits” derived from Paul VI’s “new Mass” stand as an eloquent proof of that betrayal. I would never come to lay down my pen were I to document the countless lists of scandals and sacrileges, of “black masses,” of obscenities, perpetrated after Vatican II, precisely on account of the “new liturgy.”

        The controversial and brave 93-year-old Villa, who himself has been the subject of seven assassination attempts because of his anti-Freemasonry expositions, recognizes that while not all post-Concilar abuses can be laid at the feet of Paul VI, nevertheless NewMass was Paul VI’s doing and it was carried out with his authority and approval. But, as Father Villa points out:

        It must be said… that the Traditional Mass of St. Pius V was never legally abrogated, and it remains, to this day, a true rite of the Catholic Church through which the faithful can fulfill their holy precept because Pius V had granted a perpetual indult (which was never abrogated), valid “for all time” to celebrate the Traditional Mass, freely, legally, without any scruples and without incurring a punishment, conviction or censure.

        Conclusion

        When one finally turns the last page of this book, one is left with a dreadful, gnawing feeling that when the Anti-Christ appears on earth, he will be hard pressed to do more damage to the Church and the Faith than did Paul VI. It is with this bone-chilling thought, amid pages stained with tears, that I take the reader’s leave. Paul VI Beatified? Place it in your Catholic library.

        [Randy Engel is the Director of the U.S. Coalition for Life www.uscl.info, and the IFGR/Michael Fund www.michaelfund.org. Her latest book, The Rite of Sodomy is available at www.newengelopublishing.com.]

  10. “From a noteworthy, highly reliable source, Randy Engel”

    This review should be posted as many places as possible. Though many people prefer a comfortable lie, it will cease to a comfortable choice when we stand before Our Lord.

    Lord have mercy.

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