Ed Faust on +Williamson’s Expulsion

An Inconvenient Bishop:
The Truth About Richard Williamson
by Edwin Faust
November 27, 2012

Link: www.cfnews.org/

The Church has become increasingly solicitous of its public image. The media applauded Pope John XXIII, who wanted to open the windows of the Church to let in the air of the modern world. But the Church has paid a high price for that short-lived media approbation, and the breeze of modernity has swept her into the shifting winds of public opinion.

Whatever Bishop Richard Williamson’s differences may be with the leadership of the Society of St. Pius X, any honest assessment of his ultimate expulsion from the SSPX would have to begin with the incident that caused his superior to remove him from public ministry and sequester him.

Bishop Williamson is of the opinion that gas chambers were not used in the extermination of Jews by the Nazis during World War II. He accepts the conclusions of a disputed scientific study known as the Leuchter Report. Consequently, His Excellency thinks the number of Jews killed in the camps may be closer to one and half million rather than six million. He said as much during an interview with Swedish television conducted in Germany.

This opinion is really what has made Richard Williamson a problem for the SSPX and its supporters who want a deal with the Vatican. Bishop Williamson has been tried and found guilty of Holocaust Denial under German law. He has, unofficially, been found guilty of being inconvenient to the SSPX and the Holy See.

His Excellency’s expulsion from the SSPX was consummated in October. It was immediately followed by an announcement from Vatican officials that negotiations with the SSPX were not at an end or a standstill, as formerly thought, but that patience was needed and hope for a reconciliation very much alive. Coincidence?

Jewish organizations that maintain relations with the Vatican denounced the lifting of the excommunications of the SSPX bishops, noting that a “holocaust denier” was among them. The pope’s spokesman said the Holy Father did not know of Bishop Williamson’s remarks at the time of the decree, implying that such knowledge may have affected the lifting of the excommunications.

Without weighing in on the merits of Bishop Williamson’s opinion about the Leuchter Report, is it not pertinent to ask what that opinion has to do with the Catholic Faith? Must one subscribe to a particular version of history to be qualified to practice an episcopal ministry within the Catholic Church? One might also ask: To what extent has ecclesial authority been extended de facto to German courts, Jewish organizations and the popular media?

Bishop Williamson was removed as rector of the SSPX seminary in South America and exiled to Wimbledon not for transgressing any statute of his priestly fraternity; not for any infraction of canon law; not for any public or private dissent from the dogmatic teaching of the Church. Bishop Williamson was stripped of his ministry and hidden from public view for being a public-relations problem.

Had His Excellency recanted his opinion, apologized to all who were ostensibly offended by it, paid his court fine and made his mea culpa to his superior, all might have been well. The problem is: He is an honest man.

He has not been persuaded that he is wrong in his opinion, and he knows he has not transgressed any discipline or doctrine of the Church. He has continued to speak his mind through his blog site. And he has been forthright in stating his position regarding a deal between the SSPX and the Vatican: He thinks the time has not yet arrived when the SSPX can trust the orthodoxy and honorable intentions of the Roman authorities.

He opposes the efforts in this direction of his superior, Bishop Fellay, and has called for new leadership in the SSPX. Whether this merits his expulsion from the fraternity is a question best left to the members of that fraternity. But the elimination of Bishop Williamson certainly relieves the SSPX of a public-relations problem and eases any possible deal that may be in the works with an intensely media-sensitive Roman Curia. Of course, what those who welcome Bishop Williamson’s expulsion may not realize is that the charge of anti-Semitism will continue to be leveled at the Catholic Church under every possible pretext, for it is the Faith itself that many Jews find offensive.

Anyone who knows Bishop Williamson realizes that his integrity is beyond question, as is his charity. However unpopular his opinions, they are not held out of malice, but out of honest conviction. He may be judged eccentric, even imprudent. But he is Catholic to the core. And this may be the heart of the problem. It is time it was acknowledged.

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55 comments on “Ed Faust on +Williamson’s Expulsion

  1. Here are my two cents and I will agree with those who opine that it is worth even less than its face value.

    With the power of hindsight, all involved in this tragedy would probably have handled it a bit differently including Bishop Williamson and Bishop Fellay. That the Society has lost one of its original bishops to anything other than his natural death is tragic. For the most part, Bishop Williamson has always been a heroic figure, particularly among the English speaking folks, due to his candor, his orthodoxy, his sense of humor, his engaging personality, and even his eccentricity.

    That he may have become the victim of a Jewish revolt led by Abe Foxman is nobody’s fault but his own. The other three SSPX bishops have gotten along fine since their episcopal consecrations without publicly delving into how many Jews were killed in the holocaust or whether George Bush blew up the twin towers. While I understand that the moral of those stories may be, at a high level, don’t trust politicians, and/or, don’t make your government into a false god, I have never heard a further justification from +Williamson as to why it was essential that he would spend time expounding on these issues, as a Roman Catholic Bishop, in public, on T.V., as opposed to perhaps going onto Swedish T.V. and evangelizing for Christ as the Sovereign King. Maybe it is because that interview would have only lasted 15 seconds before the atheist journalists got bored and shut off the camera. Face it, Bishop Williamson enjoys the limelight in contrast to the other SSPX Bishops who diligently travel, impart the sacraments, preach on the crisis within the Church, and publicly ignore matters that do not touch on the Roman Catholic faith like how many Jews died under the Nazis, how they really died, and who may have planted explosives in the World Trade Center. I am not trying to discredit the veracity of these issues, one way or the other. They are just not particularly pertinent to the salvation of my soul or the souls of my family. If Bishop Williamson would have stuck to his duties, which I would argue, do not include the former topics, this whole affair may never have happened and the trajectory that has led to his expulsion might have been avoided.

    I love Bishop Williamson. But he is where he is by his own actions and by his refusal to stay “on topic” when granting media interviews. He was red meat for those vultures who interviewed him and he knew what he should not have said to them (by his own account) and his moment of indiscretion, perhaps even prideful, resulted in this disaster.

    • That is, in my opinion, as well put as ever it could be, Vinny.

      I withdrew from supporting +W’s “cause” in the recent unpleasantries once that horrific suggestion came out that Trads should read Valtorta’s blasphemies. ( There has been considerable Trad excuse-making in the wake of it, purporting it was written ironically, so I’ve let the matter just drop ).

      To be blunt ( and intending no disrespect to anyone in particular ), the loss of +W is a grave loss for the Society insofar as he possesses a superior personality, eloquence and fervor before the face of the enemy – within and without the Vatican – in contrast to his three former collegial brethren. That is not to imply he is more intelligent, not at all. However, the SSPX, whether it likes it or not, HAS a very public face and it ought best look to see how that can be restored, pronto.

      Whether the SSPX faithful like it or not, we live in an era where image COUNTS. At least, with +W, it was a powerful FIGHTING image. Now, it seems, the only thing the top management in Mintzinger is fighting at all is its own adepts, those bold enough to raise savvy, sincere and vitally important questions about events of the past decade.

  2. chris torey on said:

    Poor old bishop W. He just did not get it, did he,
    All his talk of Truth, morals and what is going on in the world is just too tiresome.
    Why can’t he be like good old Cardinal Dolan and sit down to lunch with Yo Mama and Zitt Rummie?

    Cardinals and Bishops today have to be naive , trusting, believe in man’s innate goodness and never, never, never judge, If they did so then they would not be able to say. ” I never knew, he seemed such a nice guy.”
    To get on in today’s catholic church one has to be liberal. Like this chappie,
    Gerhard Ludwig Muller with punks
    Archbishop Gerhard Muller welcomes punk girls
    We learned this week that Benedict XVI named German Bishop, now Archbishop Gerhard Ludwig Muller of Regensburg to be the next Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

    This Gerhard Muller is my tip for the top and will be Pope one day.

    Our elder Bothers consider him a much safer proposition than that insane old man who rambles on about Holocausts and Twin Towers, stuff all GOOD Bishops like Gerhard stay well away from, too much controversy there. Gerhard likes to discuss easy topics Like The Virginity of Mary, and the real presence in the Eucharist. His answers to this sort of subject swell the Hearts of the Elder brothers, no end.

    I’ll say my prayers for Bishop W, as most of the others are beyond redemption.

    • “Beyond redemption,” Chris? I don’t think you really meant to write those exact words, so I’ll leave it at that.

      I can remember Fr. Jürgen Wegner (I think it was him) who is currently the District Superior of Canada and who came to this post from Europe giving a talk and explanation of the position of the Society following the “lifting” of the excommunications. He also spoke of the effects of Bp. Williamson’s statements concerning his opinions on the Holocaust. As he pointed out, those who do not live in Europe can not fully realize the harm that these comments caused to the Society in Europe. He spoke of people who might lose their jobs if it was known that they were with the SSPX. He told us of a priest who had said to him: I am willing to die for my faith, but I don’t want to die or be killed for a mere question of historical fact. And he also explained that if the Society were labeled as “Holocaust deniers” (as it was) then people would be less likely to consider conversion. Yes, the issue had the potential to result in scandal and the loss of souls who might realistically have been saved. Beyond all doubt, Bp. Williamson failed to see these dangers, though someone of his experience and intelligence should have been able to forsee these posibilities, so obviously real in post-WWII Europe where Holocaust-denying can be a criminal offense.

      In conclusion, regardless of the historical and scientific truth or error of his statements, they were extremely imprudent and dangerous, and were potentially scandalous from an objective point of view. Damage-control was imperrative for the good of souls.

      NB: of course, no doubt Bp. Williamson did not intend any harm by his statements. We can not judge his intentions or his foresight. I only wish to point out the objective facts of the matter so that we may truly understand the actions of those involved.

      May God bless both Bishop Williamson and Bishop Fellay.

  3. Bsp W was expelled because he is incapable of shutting up about matters having nothing whatsoever to do with the Faith. It’s really that simple.

  4. Charlotte NC Bill on said:

    Bp Williamson did make it a liitle easy for his enemies……( He should have simply told the dishonest journalist-who couldn’t care less about the Mass of all time-..”ah, so now we come to the real purpose of this interview…well, as you know, it is illegal to talk about this subject in this country and in some dozen other countries on the continent…and not because the official version is supported by the facts…but that’s as much as one can say on this….Good night…come to one of our chapels soon..” ) But let’s look at his enemies…

  5. Charlotte NC Bill on said:

    By now all but the most uninformed must know of the Rothschild-Gutman money behind the recent SSPX Kosher imperatives…The Gutman family of Austria has funded the Jaidhofer Foundation ( the trustee is a Mossad connected lawyer named Max Krah ) and has been donating substantial sums to the SSPX…They’re funding the building of our superfluous ( what’s wrong with Winona? ) new Taj Mahal seminary in Winona…The Jaidhofer Foundation ( with supposedly $80 million Euros set-aside ) has emerged as the Zionist vehicle that wags the Menzingen tail…

    • This is pure slander, lies, and just plain fiction. You should stick to what you know instead of spreading internet folk lore.

      The Jaidhoffer Foundation was established by a Catholic family. Yes, perhaps they have Jewish ancestry but so do many others.

      Dr. Krah is neither a Jew, nor a Zionist. Yes, you and your ilk would like to claim he is because he does not take the same anti-Jew position you take but it doesn’t make it true.

      Spreading lies and gossip is a sin, whether on the internet or in person. Perhaps you should ponder how you will answer for such actions at your last judgement. Do you really want to answer for such actions at your last judgement? If not, then think twice before participating in the spread of such lies and gossip.

      • NeelyAnn,

        Unfortunately, Bill doesn’t seem to understand the gravity of his actions. Somehow he seems to have confused the charity to ‘act’ and ‘speak out’ with the charity of speaking only those things that are known to be objectively true with subjective speculation. He’s been told before but doesn’t listen.

        As for all his ramblings, perhaps I can point to an website that addresses some of these issues ?

        www.facebook.com/SspxAgainstTheRumors?ref=hl

        • Charlotte NC Bill on said:

          Speaking of lies; that’s all we’ve been getting from Menzingen…” There is no deal..” is all we heard…But he had the outlines of a deal….thought the Pope agreed to his deal….The conditions of this deal ( June 30th letter-Must except Vatican II without conditons, must accept the New Mass…) were so bad he wouldn’t let anyone see it…Tried to ramrod it through before the faithful could be woken up by the brave priests ( Girourd, Pfeiffer, Chazal, Hewko, Cardoza, Abrahomowicz, etc ) who spoke up and are now expelled or silenced..Fellay doesn’t seem to understand the “gravity of his actions..”
          Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver…Fellay’s price was $80 million euros….at least he doesn’t come cheap.

      • Charlotte NC Bill on said:

        Right..we have pictures of Krah at an IDF terrorist training camp but he’s not a Zionist…He raises money for Israel but he’s not a Zionist…He was the lawyer recommended by Bp Fellay for Bp Williamson if you can believe that….The Gutmans are not Catholic…Nothing you just said was true…

        • Wrong – the Gutman family is Catholic. They do have jewish ancestry but the family converted. As for Dr. Krah, either you can’t read or don’t care to. There have been explanations on the internet regarding the misinformation that you are spreading here. He does not raise money for Israel and the picture you mentioned was part of a tourist group.

          Provide documentation – not internet rumors and assumptions – to support your lies, assumptions, slander, and detraction. If you can’t, you’ve no choice but to admit it is nothing more than gossip. For the sake of your soul, you need to understand this. Or do you not think Catholics should be concerned with sin and the state of their souls. Perhaps you think you’ll have time at your death bed to work it out? Risky, to say the least.

          • Neely Ann,

            You know, I agree with a lot of what you say, but unfortunately it’s difficult to hear what you say, because you sound like a clashing gong; your good intentions being conveyed in a tone that is quite similar to the one you are criticizing.

            Concern yourself with the truth, and I believe you are concerning yourself so, and not with the speck in bill’s eye. We all, even you, have planks in our own.

            That said, I repeat, I agree with a lot of what you have said, although it was difficult to hear it.

            Thanks for hearing me out. Now allow me to go attend to those planks in both my eyes.

        • Here is a piece of an Obit regarding one of the Gutman’s.

          July 15, 1934

          Vienna, Jul. 13 (JTA) – Baron Moritz von Guttmann, 62, Jewish coal king of Vienna and relative of the Viennese Rothschilds, died here today. He was the last Jewish member of the family. All the others married non-Jews.

          Notice what it says – he died in 1934 and he was the LAST Jewish member of the family.

          The Gutman fmaily that placed money in a trust for the SSPX is Catholic.

          • Charlotte NC Bill on said:

            By marriage….Hey guess what Neely, I married a Lebanese woman…does that make me Lebanese? Or am I still american? Hmmmm….Right. so when the Jews give the SSPX money I’m sure they’re doing it out of the goodness of their hearts and a love of the Catholic faith….they wouldn’t expect anything in return…that would be so unlike them..

  6. Charlotte NC Bill on said:

    Which also explains recent statements by Bp Fellay, May 11; ” Some things that we taught were errors of the Council were not in fact errors of the Council but misinterpretations of the Council..” That’s what the liberal and “conservative” critics of Traditionalists have always said-and they’ve always been wrong…Fr. Hewko called Bp Fellay June 19th to ask him to clarify ( Bp Fellay had just said that the Archbp talk something wrong ) and was told the statement was ” taken out of context..” 14 hours later Fr. Hewko rcvd his first expulsion notice…

  7. Charlotte NC Bill on said:

    Jun 30th the letter from the Pope was received in Menzingen..The letter demanded 6 conditions of the SSPX…3 are bad, the other 3 are very bad ( under the control of the local bishop..any property less than 3 yrs old goes to the diocese…etc )
    July 14th- The General Chapter states ” We have determined and approved the conditions of an eventual canonical regularization…”
    Sept. 27th- Bp Fellay says he was “deceived..” And don’t forget:
    Feb 2nd-Bp Fellay ” We have been in this irregular situation so long we’re beginning to think it’s normal…” Fr. Pflueger..has also warned us about becoming ” practical sede-vacantists”
    April 15; Fr. Pflueger-” Vatican II explains truth not understood before..” What? Lumen Gentium? Religious Liberty? Ecumenism?
    Everything coming from the Superior General and his aides over the past several mos seems almost designed to provoke a reaction fm the bishops ( Williamson, DeMallerais ) and the priests most likely to object to an eventual sell-out…They’ve been brought out into the open-and expelled..

  8. Charlotte NC Bill on said:

    I know Bp DeMallerais was moved-not expelled-to Chicago….In France he could certainly give the Sup Gen more trouble…I think that was a factor.

  9. There are evil Zionists behind every tree!! Here come the black helicopters with the Star of David on the side! Run! Run away! Hide your children!!!

    • So…you don’t believe that Israel exercises great control over our country? I think before people show their lack of understanding publicly on a forum like this, they should do a little studying of history and current events. When the Society discourages television it doesn’t mean it wishes us to bury our heads in the sand. Your comment reminds me of one not too long ago on this forum, I believe, where someone sarcastically referred to those who believe that the government can affect weather changes, earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes etc…as unbalanced.
      I would like to point out that anyone who reads scientific journals or even watches National Geographic or Discovery, knows that these things can and probably are being done. And the question of chemtrails is no longer a question. It is being openly admitted and discussed. And I believe that Bishop Williamson’s efforts have been to smack us until we are awake and aware of the dangerous realities around us. Throughout the history of the Church the saints and popes have constantly warned the faithful about the machinations of the Jews. Unless we understand that they pose a constant danger to our Faith, we cannot protect ourselves. Archbishop Lefebvre himself was accused of antisemitism many years ago and this style and substance of Bishop Williamson’s speeches and sermons has been a constant feature over many, many years and to my knowledge it was never condemned by Archbishop Lefebvre. So many people do not understand the importance of the question of the Jews. If it isn’t important why have so many saints weighed in on it thoughout the history of the Church? Why has the N.O. eliminated the prayers for the Jews during the Good Friday Liturgy? Why does the Holy Father leave his pectoral crucifix at home when visiting the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem as was demanded by the Jews? Why would St. Padre Pio say that they were enemies of our Holy Faith? When I read comments like et cum spirit 220’s above, It makes me realize once again what Bishop Williamson is so frustrated about. That the average Catholic, even traditionalist, is blissfully unaware of the Zionist nets that are set for Christians at every turn. Are we to believe that the Jews and their aims have changed since Our Lord condemned the synagogue of Satan? And Chris Torey is right, they will use our own military and police against us. They seldom do their own dirty work if they can help it. That is why the question of the so called Holocaust is so important to them. It is to be forever used to humiliate and embarrass the Christians for allowing such a thing (that they arranged) to happen. Never taking into account or wanting anyone to know that so many more Christians die during the War than Jews, even with the grossly inflated 6 million figure.
      So that they can go about unchecked doing whatever they wish without fear because we are too cowed to say anything that might be considered antisemitic. Our old rector used to say that when the Jews convert they are the best Catholics. This seems to be true and it is perfectly logical. There are many examples of this, the Ratisbonne brothers, St. Edith Stein, Father Bruno Rothschild (yes, one of THE Rothschild’s) not to mention the apostles and most of the earliest Christians.
      I suggest to all of the Pollyanna’s on this forum that you do some homework. You might begin by reading about Pope Pius X and his adamant refusal to recognize Israel and why.
      In parting, I leave you with a quote from Archbishop Lefebvfre, included in Bishop Tissier’s book on His Excellency,
      “Since Israel refused the true Messiah, it would give itself another messianism that is temporal and earthbound, dominating the world by money, Freemasonry, Revolution, and social democracy.
      We must not, however, forget that those Jews who were disciples of the true Messiah founded the true Israel, the spiritual kingdom, which prepares the heavenly kingdom.
      The worldwide designs of the Jews are being brought about in our time, but they started with the foundation of Masonry and the Revolution which has decapitated the Church and set up worldwide socialist democracy.”

      • “Fear not those that can kill the body, but those that can kill the soul”. I don’t think ECS220 is denying the manipulation of the modern world and the Church by the Jews through their various and deceitful means, Freemasonry being one of them.

        I believe all he is trying to say is that if you concentrate too much on that issue, it will lead you away from the truly important thing, which is our own personal sanctification: the imitation of Christ in ourselves, our children, our home, our families: our schools, our parishes and so on.

        I would really recommend reading Fr Denis Fahey’s books on the Jews and the restoration of the Social Kingship of Christ, and also “Christ the Life of the Soul”. They both give the proper perspective. To concentrate too much on the negative aspect of the spiritual life is to lose sight of the much more importand positive side.

  10. chris torey on said:

    . et cum spirit 220 says:
    November 28, 2012 at 8:24 PM

    There are evil Zionists behind every tree!! Here come the black helicopters with the Star of David on the side! Run! Run away! Hide your children!!!

    No, no, no our own helicopters will do the work. They have won everyone is scared of them. Everyone.

  11. A response to Edwin Faust.

    Let me preface my comments here by saying that I have a great respect for both Edwin Faust and Bp. Williamson.

    There is a great amount that Edwin Faust presumes here which is nothing but pure fiction.

    As for Bp. Williamsons view on the number of Jews killed, it is really a question of numbers and ultimately irrelevant (we can’t bring back the dead – RIP).

    As regards the theological teaching of the Church on the Jews, all the SSPX Bishops are in agreements there. The Old Covenant came to an end and the Jews need to repent and convert to the faith to be saved.

    “Bishop Williamson was removed as rector of the SSPX seminary in South America and exiled to Wimbledon not for transgressing any statute of his priestly fraternity; not for any infraction of canon law; not for any public or private dissent from the dogmatic teaching of the Church. Bishop Williamson was stripped of his ministry and hidden from public view for being a public-relations problem.”

    Why is it that Edwin seems to want to conveniently forget to mention that it was the Argentinean government that asked him to leave the country?

    Why is it that he seems to conveniently forget that no one forced Bp. Williamson to give that interview (with clear enemies of the faith) in which he, as a public figure undermined the work of the SSPX?

    Why is it that he seems to leave out the great damage this did to image of the SSPX world wide?

    Why is it that he seems to leave out that it was for the good of Bp. Williamson that he had to be removed from the Seminary so as to be able to deal with the issue that he had brought about, – court case on the issue ‘holocaust denial’.

    “Had His Excellency recanted his opinion, apologized to all who were ostensibly offended by it, paid his court fine and made his mea culpa to his superior, all might have been well. The problem is: He is an honest man.”

    Bp. Williams was given a lawyer at the expense of the SSPX and looked after material by the SSPX. He held to his position and won his case.

    “He has continued to speak his mind through his blog site. And he has been forthright in stating his position regarding a deal between the SSPX and the Vatican: He thinks the time has not yet arrived when the SSPX can trust the orthodoxy and honorable intentions of the Roman authorities.”

    Yes, all nice, but he is not the SG and can’t just do want he wants. If he wanted to do that, then yes, he is welcome to go off and do his own thing as an independent identity. But in no organisation, much less, the Catholic Church is an individual (Priest or Bishop) free to do his own thing.

    “He opposes the efforts in this direction of his superior, Bishop Fellay, and has called for new leadership in the SSPX. Whether this merits his expulsion from the fraternity is a question best left to the members of that fraternity.”

    Yes, but I, Edwin Faust have to publish an article telling everyone how I disagree with it. So much leaving it to the members of the fraternity !

    “But the elimination of Bishop Williamson certainly relieves the SSPX of a public-relations problem and eases any possible deal that may be in the works with an intensely media-sensitive Roman Curia.”

    This is once more only wishful thinking. Those who think that somehow Bp. Williamson was somehow the cause of ‘preventing a deal’ are pure dreamers. Nothing in the Vatican texts made mention of Bp. Williamson. The ‘deal’ was refused because it asked of the SSPX to accept the Vatican II ! Reality please !

    “- Of course, what those who welcome Bishop Williamson’s expulsion may not realize is that the charge of anti-Semitism will continue to be leveled at the Catholic Church under every possible pretext, for it is the Faith itself that many Jews find offensive.’ –

    Firstly, Bp. Williamson expulsion is to be lamented from the fact that he has been on of the four Bishop who held on to the faith. It would have been hoped he would have had the basic decency to respect the wishes of the SG and continue in unity with the SSPX. It is hoped that he would one day return.

    That said, Edwin Faust is correct in that Bp. Williamson’s expulsion from the SSPX as regarding the Jews means absolutely nothing. It isn’t Bp. Williamson they hate, it’s the Catholic faith. And it is that same faith that the SSPX continues to represent regardless of Bp. Williamson. – The “Holocaust’ regardless of anyone’s views, is a sidetracking topic, the real issues are far more profound.

    And so those, who, attack the SSPX, are only doing the work that the Jews want you to do, for Bp. Williamson isn’t the issue, it’s the Traditional Catholic which continues to be upheld by the SSPX, which is the real issue.

    “-Anyone who knows Bishop Williamson realizes that his integrity is beyond question, as is his charity. However unpopular his opinions, they are not held out of malice, but out of honest conviction. He may be judged eccentric, even imprudent. But he is Catholic to the core. And this may be the heart of the problem. It is time it was acknowledged.”

    No, Edwin that isn’t the heart of the problem at all. The heart of the problem is that Bp. Williamson refused to obey a simple command (closing his blog site in which he would openly attack the Superior General views) and in the end, for whatever one might think, he isn’t the Superior General. He may one day be, the Superior General, and I don’t think anyone who openly opposes him would remain for a minute a member of the SSPX.

    Regardless of what anyone might think of the Superior General, the solid faith and moral character of the other SSPX Bishops is beyond question. They had equally been outspoken, and even wrote a joint letter with Bp. Williamson, but in the end they also knew there place and could grasp the concept of the common good.

    May God reward them and keep them all on the steady track of the ancient faith.

  12. Anthony Malleus, thank you for your reply! It was very good. Personally, I was not imppressed with this piece by Edwin Faust. I found it to be off the mark, too simplistic, or simply inaccurate at times. For instances, the comment about Bishop Williamson being removed from the seminary in Argentina. At the time this occurred, it was a huge event and was all over the media – Bishop Williamson was made to leave Argentina by their government. He had no choice but to leave and the SSPX had no choice but to remove him from the seminary since he was not allowed to stay in that country any longer. See one story here:

    www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=11112&pageid=17&pagename=News

    And it was Bishop Williamson who chose to go to Wimbeldon because the risk was great that he might be extradited had he gone anywhere else. I think I heard the US would have been safe, but he is from Britian, so the choice to return home was logical. And he has not been in ‘exile’ there. There is correspondence between BIshop Williamson and the SSPX trying to get him to go on assignment to do confirmations, etc. and he refused. He did however, agree to go to the Asian District back in May and we see the poor outcome of that.

    Point is, Faust’s article is inaccurate and I am really not sure of the point of the article.

  13. chris torey on said:

    Anthony Malleus says:
    November 29, 2012 at 6:11 AM
    A response to Edwin Faust.
    Let me preface my comments here by saying that I have a great respect for both Edwin Faust and Bp. Williamson.
    There is a great amount that Edwin Faust presumes here which is nothing but pure fiction.
    As for Bp. Williamsons view on the number of Jews killed, it is really a question of numbers and ultimately irrelevant (we can’t bring back the dead – RIP).
    Irrelevant? When it is doctrinated 24/7 by the media in films, books, newspapers, journals etc. Tell Abe Foxman it is irrelevant.. I met a young German in a mine in Africa 40 years ago, there was another WWII movie showing at the cinema, “Patton” he of the ivory handled pistol or was it Mother of pearl handled pistol anyway one denoted a New Orleans whore house pimp and the other denoted a 5 Star General so the distinction is relevant. Next day Helmut said, “Why can’t you people forget the war? It ended 25 years sgo”. Helmut my old friend we’re still getting it now 40 years on. Wish we could forget but our ELDER Brothers won’t let us. 6000000 can’t be forgotten.
    As regards the theological teaching of the Church on the Jews, all the SSPX Bishops are in agreements there. The Old Covenant came to an end and the Jews need to repent and convert to the faith to be saved.
    Someone had better tell Pope Benedict XVI as he says our Elder Brothers have their own covenant. No need for them to convert as they are special, Chosen, even. Perhaps Bishop Fellay could remind his Holiness next time they have a Schnapps morning.
    “Bishop Williamson was removed as rector of the SSPX seminary in South America and exiled to Wimbledon not for transgressing any statute of his priestly fraternity; not for any infraction of canon law; not for any public or private dissent from the dogmatic teaching of the Church. Bishop Williamson was stripped of his ministry and hidden from public view for being a public-relations problem.”
    Public Relations rule the world another elder brother invention one Edward Bernays, a nephew of Ol Sigmund Freud no less.. What happened to Right and Wrong. Bishop W is merely saying that we should be able to discuss these things.
    Why is it that Edwin seems to want to conveniently forget to mention that it was the Argentinean government that asked him to leave the country?
    Why is it that he seems to conveniently forget that no one forced Bp. Williamson to give that interview (with clear enemies of the faith) in which he, as a public figure undermined the work of the SSPX?
    If you have seen the interview you will notice after the question is asked, Bishop W rolls his eyes, he knows he has been suckered , but will not be cowered and goes ahead to answer. Brave man, what would Cardinal Dolan’s response be to that question?. Of course no need to trap the good Cardinal as they have him hog-tied already.
    Why is it that he seems to leave out the great damage this did to image of the SSPX world wide?
    What damage? That he doesn’t go along with the perceived Truth?
    Why is it that he seems to leave out that it was for the good of Bp. Williamson that he had to be removed from the Seminary so as to be able to deal with the issue that he had brought about, – court case on the issue ‘holocaust denial’.
    “Had His Excellency recanted his opinion, apologized to all who were ostensibly offended by it, paid his court fine and made his mea culpa to his superior, all might have been well. The problem is: He is an honest man.”
    And thank God he is.
    Bp. Williams was given a lawyer at the expense of the SSPX and looked after material by the SSPX. He held to his position and won his case.
    “He has continued to speak his mind through his blog site. And he has been forthright in stating his position regarding a deal between the SSPX and the Vatican: He thinks the time has not yet arrived when the SSPX can trust the orthodoxy and honorable intentions of the Roman authorities.”
    And he is 1000% Correct. Rome can’t be trusted. It is riddled with Freemasons
    Yes, all nice, but he is not the SG and can’t just do want he wants. If he wanted to do that, then yes, he is welcome to go off and do his own thing as an independent identity. But in no organisation, much less, the Catholic Church is an individual (Priest or Bishop) free to do his own thing.
    What about Paul to Peter, “I challenge you to your face.”What about Athanasius at the the time of the Arian heresy? Were they wrong to disobey? Truth has to be fought for even at the most inconvenient times. Public Relations be damned.
    “He opposes the efforts in this direction of his superior, Bishop Fellay, and has called for new leadership in the SSPX. Whether this merits his expulsion from the fraternity is a question best left to the members of that fraternity.”
    Yes, but I, Edwin Faust have to publish an article telling everyone how I disagree with it. So much leaving it to the members of the fraternity !
    “But the elimination of Bishop Williamson certainly relieves the SSPX of a public-relations problem and eases any possible deal that may be in the works with an intensely media-sensitive Roman Curia.”
    This is once more only wishful thinking. Those who think that somehow Bp. Williamson was somehow the cause of ‘preventing a deal’ are pure dreamers. Nothing in the Vatican texts made mention of Bp. Williamson. The ‘deal’ was refused because it asked of the SSPX to accept the Vatican II ! Reality please !
    And why would they mention him He had been eliminated. Reality, Please.
    “- Of course, what those who welcome Bishop Williamson’s expulsion may not realize is that the charge of anti-Semitism will continue to be leveled at the Catholic Church under every possible pretext, for it is the Faith itself that many Jews find offensive.’ –
    Now you’re getting it. Catholics will never be right until our Elder Brothers tell us so. History has been one long war against the Church. Names and faces of the protagonists change with time but our Elder Brother is always there in the opposite corner.
    Firstly, Bp. Williamson expulsion is to be lamented from the fact that he has been on of the four Bishop who held on to the faith. It would have been hoped he would have had the basic decency to respect the wishes of the SG and continue in unity with the SSPX. It is hoped that he would one day return.
    If the SG holds to the Faith there would no negotiations whatsoever with Rome. Rome, New Church, Conciliar Church is finished. It is rotten all the way through. How can a Bishop, Gerhard Mueller, be appointed head of the CDF when he does not believe in the Virgin Birth or the Permanent Virginity of Our Lady. Not to mention the Real Presence of Our Lord in The Eucharist. For the Faith we traditionalists should ignore Rome and try to save our souls.
    That said, Edwin Faust is correct in that Bp. Williamson’s expulsion from the SSPX as regarding the Jews means absolutely nothing. It isn’t Bp. Williamson they hate, it’s the Catholic faith. And it is that same faith that the SSPX continues to represent regardless of Bp. Williamson. – The “Holocaust’ regardless of anyone’s views, is a sidetracking topic, the real issues are far more profound.
    Holocaust. Sidetracking. Well that’s a novel idea. Tell Norman Finklestein he should get his tenureship back. Reality Please. The Holocaust is the most significant event of the time and has been worked on since the early 1900’s do you know that 6000000 jews were to die in WWI? Sidetrack? What world are you in. I know the same one as our naïve Cardinal Dolan et al.
    And so those, who, attack the SSPX, are only doing the work that the Jews want you to do, for Bp. Williamson isn’t the issue, it’s the Traditional Catholic which continues to be upheld by the SSPX, which is the real issue.
    We are not attacking but trying to point it in the right direction. Archbishop Lefebvre knew all about Freemasons. Incidently Freemasonry and our Elder Brothers are synonymous. They invented Freemasonry.
    “-Anyone who knows Bishop Williamson realizes that his integrity is beyond question, as is his charity. However unpopular his opinions, they are not held out of malice, but out of honest conviction. He may be judged eccentric, even imprudent. But he is Catholic to the core. And this may be the heart of the problem. It is time it was acknowledged.”
    No, Edwin that isn’t the heart of the problem at all. The heart of the problem is that Bp. Williamson refused to obey a simple command (closing his blog site in which he would openly attack the Superior General views) and in the end, for whatever one might think, he isn’t the Superior General. He may one day be, the Superior General, and I don’t think anyone who openly opposes him would remain for a minute a member of the SSPX.
    Bishop W asked The SG and his cohorts many times. “Show me the errors in my blogsite and I will correct them” No answer to that one, seems the SG and his merry men were tongue struck. Maybe it was a case of “close the blog down I am the SG. I am in secret negotiations and the Elder Brothers, oops, I mean Pope Benedict, doesn’t like you. You’re not a very tolerant man.” Truth is simple. Lies tend to complicate things.
    Regardless of what anyone might think of the Superior General, the solid faith and moral character of the other SSPX Bishops is beyond question. They had equally been outspoken, and even wrote a joint letter with Bp. Williamson, but in the end they also knew there place and could grasp the concept of the common good.
    I admire your faith in the SG and the other Bishops.
    May God reward them and keep them all on the steady track of the ancient faith
    If they go back to the Ancient Faith they will have on troubles. Perhaps a persecution or two, but isn’t hat what we are on earth for. To Die in God’s Glory. I myself can not see why we have the need for Secret negotiations, Satan loves secrecy, that’s where the sins are at, and why we need to through a good man to the fire for the cause of Public Relations. Public Relations and the Ancient Faith, now there’s a novelty

    • The obstinate supporters of +Williamson and his persistant refusal to stop his blog seem to forget that obedience is required to one’s lawful superior in all things, unless it directly transgresses God’s Law. That’s not blind obedience; it’s the true virtue of obedience. Obeying when you feel like it, when you understand the order, or otherwise putting conditions on it is not true obedience.

      Chris Torey, please bridle your tongue and your fingers and cease the putrid vitriol. Persisting with the “sell-out” line, against all evidence and guarantees of those involved is grossly unbecoming of you as a Catholic. Or are you another of these special “enlightened” people who has been blessed with this sudden epidemic of “foresight”, so sturdily built on maybes and what-ifs and pure vile conjecture?

  14. Charlotte NC Bill on said:

    They wanted him to shut down a private subscription only blog…They wanted him to stay in that attic for the rest of his life and do “penance” for denying the holohoax…which has been disproven nine ways to Sunday…A couple of yrs ago a German teenager was brought up on the same charges…The kid then pressed charges against himself…a maneuver that allows for open inquiry under German law….After an hr of testimony the court historians were getting their heads handed to them..The judge shut down the proceedings and dismissed the charges..

    • Bill, Bp. Williamson was expelled for persistently and publicly disobeying his superior and for persistently and publicly attacking his superior. He was expelled after many warnings and requests to cease-and-desist. He was emphatically NOT expelled for his views on the holocaust or on any other “conspiracy”-related question.

      That being said, do you have any reference for the German teenager story? I’d honestly like to read more about it. It sounds like an interesting story.

      • Charlotte NC Bill on said:

        The Barnes Review did an article on it…I’ll try to find it…..But getting back to the “sellout..what sellout?” Yes well, the Sup Gen has been expelling or silencing everyone that’s spoken out against the planned sell-out….so yeah, if that doesn’t show that he’s dedicated to NOT selling out…what does?

        • That’s just it! There has been no sell-out! So if people continue to blindly cry “sellout sellout” and deny reality and call for public disobedience, then what do you expect?

          • This descent into mere bickering really has to come to an end, lest traditionalism end its own worldwide campaign to simply restore Catholic common sense, dogmatic supremacy and sacred tradition – by its own hand.

            All sides, for they are multiple, have to face a reckoning in the public forum. I am first to admit my own fault over the past six months with regard to letting suspicion gain an upper hand – on occasion – even though there were reasons for suspicions that all was not being told – by Rome or Mentzingen, especially on the Vatican side with its disastrous appointment of Mueller. It appeared to me and others that the forces behind the throne were really gearing up to excoriate traditionalists. That, of course, is now an established fact.

            Thus, I have called time and again for the Society to simply come forth publicly with the entire record of its dealings with Rome – not politicized renditions interspersed with acts of “vindication”. We’ll see if that suggestion ever results in an honorable response. Again, just today, I mentioned on some thread or another that there is supposed to be a record of all the discussions with Rome. Where is it? And will there be a full explanation of transactions and those involved in same regarding substantial gifts to the Society, realized or otherwise?

            These are matters that EACH of the SSPX leadership, including its top attorney, have spoken to – going, in a few cases ( e.g., Krah ), onto traditionalist forums to express only what they wish, without fully addressing the numerous questions raised by serious members of the Society.

            They are well aware that are grounds for serious discussion of these matters. When will they occur?

            I have also foresworn any further comment regarding poor old Bp. Williamson, of whom I remain personally fond and count myself an admirer, despite certain remarks he has made, from time to time. Historically, he’s been out of the game for years, anyway and that really is a shame.

            Nevertheless, the Society has a unique role and it had best live up to it. And it will not as long as its own upper chamber continues its muddled way, as it has, with its emphasis on protecting an image instead of a legacy.

            I don’t think the situation is quite hopeless, quite yet. But is will be a near run thing.

        • Did I mention anything about a sellout? Well, since you seem to want to discuss it, I’ll try to express my opinions concerning the facts as best I can.

          It may indeed have been dangerous to contract a canonical agreement with Rome at this time, and the argument could be made that such an agreement could only come to an unfortunate end. However, such an agreement will have to be reached eventually. As Bp. Williamson himself said years ago, we are not the Church, but only a lifeboat. Such a practical agreement may also have to eventually be made before the full conversion of Rome to Tradition (we can’t necessarily justify holding-out until everything is absolutely perfect), but if such an agreement grants us all the conditions proposed by this summer’s General Chapter, then that would already be a major turn-around, as it would imply a criticism of Vatican II and an acceptance of criticism of the errors and abuses which followed it. Bp. Fellay has admitted that he was deceived and that he made a mistake (no one is perfect), and the decision of the General Chapter to refer any future agreement with Rome to a “deliberative vote” of the General Chapter (that is, a vote which is decisive and binding) effectively removes any risk of the Superior General doing his own thing in this regard in the future. It also reduces the future risk of repeating the confusion and concern which existed among the priests and faithful this past year. This arrangement provides a prudent check-and-balance mechanism, so even if Bp. Fellay was dedicated to “selling-out” the society as some claim (and, yes, I disagree with them), he cannot do it without 51% of the Society backing him up, which, in my opinion, is a highly unlikely event. If the condition of the Society were ever to reach a point where 51% of its superiors would vote for an actual sellout or capitulation, then it would effectively be lost, in any case.

          My conclusion? A “sellout” will not occur, regardless of anyone’s opinions of Bp. Fellay. Like it or not, he is the Superior General of The SSPX, and his position of authority demands respect and obedience from those who are members of the Society.

          Archbishop Lefebvre, Pray for us.

  15. Tradidi, your kind expressions are an example to me and others. These are very treacherous times, even without bringing SSPX politics into it. There are genuine theological and cultural threats mounting in Rome constantly and the rate of the rate of change is accelerating under the Benedictine primacy. From ordination, his mind has been that of a progressivist/liberal/Modernist theologian. It’s how he sees the Church he heads and the world at large. A huge factor is his affliction, his seeming inability to acknowledge the Catholicity, the true necessity – no, ontological imperative to distinguish between the one Faith entrusted to his care and the so-called “goodness” in any other creed. In other words, everything is gray as far as he is concerned. In that milieu, enemies smack their lips and salivate.

    If for no other, that reason is reason enough for the SSPX to avoid ANYTHING that would, even but incrementally, weaken, soften and eventually compromise the legacy it has inherited. And it is not just the Archbishop – but literally ALL the Fathers, Doctors, Holy Councils and Saints and Popes that are on the line here.

    It is a massive task fraught with danger at every turn.

    Hence, when it comes to avoiding shipwreck, profound caution cannot be stressed enough.

    Thusly, clouds hanging over Menzingen as to intent, firmness, the issue of possible inveigling by enemies ( and just whom else would zionists more be concerned with neutralizing than the Society? ) and the prudence of persecuting its own must be all cleared away. Or, quite simply, it will do nothing other than become a thunderstorm and the entire life boat will sink like a rock.

  16. If anyone needs any further reason to avoid infighting among “trads”(*), just think about this: It is exactly what the Conciliarists want — “divide and conquer, wait them out,” is their strategy.

    Think about these two points:

    1. There can be no negotiation about doctrine, only about canonical/disciplinary matters; as far as I can tell, the rounds of doctrinal discussions between the SSPX and Conciliarist Rome were just discussions, not negotiations. These ultimatums, offers, threats, invitations, etc. are side-shows to distract and divide us; we should not give them what they want in this regard.

    2. Permanent separation from Rome is schism; to refuse to even engage in discussions with Roman authorities is schismatic. On the other hand, we do need a modern (but not Modernist!) Catherine of Siena to bring the Pope back to Rome, this time spiritually rather than physically. This is not an accusation of formal heresy, but it is clear that Pope Benedict is (and has been for quite some time, since before becoming Pope or even a cardinal) beset with some affliction that prevents him from seeing (or at least admitting) obvious problems which he has the authority to remedy.

    (*) I reluctantly use this term as shorthand to mean those Catholics who haven’t swallowed the Modernist poison (and those who have recovered from past doses, which is probably most of us, anyway). We are not the ones who should have to use some qualifying adjective to describe our Catholicism, and I resent the fact that as a practical matter, we do.

    • Good points, Glor.

      If Benedict XVI is Peter and his soul needs converting, whose job is that? Setting up a Traditional Valhalla in Boston, Kentucky and waiting for a miraculous appearance from Our Lord or His Blessed Mother requires no Catholic spine. Infiltrating the church which a legion (500+) of Traditionally formed priests and Bishops requires much more backbone than the former – it will be a grueling battle – and has the best chance of converting Rome – that is assuming, it is our job. I believe that is what the Archbishop had in mind when he started Econe in 1970.

  17. chris torey on said:

    Fine, Vinnyf, IF the Pope is Peter.
    I worry that the Pope is even a Catholic. SSPX has no chance of converting Rome, did you not hear the prefect of CDF Bisjop Mueller,whom the Pope only recently appointed.
    Rome is finished and we should recognise this.
    Nobody except Our Lady can win it back.

    • Charlotte NC Bill on said:

      Listen to the conference given by ” Fr. Pfeiffer, fr. Chazal Oct 3rd Conference in singapore..” on You Tube…Listen to Fr. Hewko’s Nov 25 sermon on Youtube…The books by the Archbp have been taken out of our bookstores bc our whole stance towards the Conciliar Church has changed…Now we’re asking for the right to challenge ” the promoters ” of Vatican II…We’ve always condemned errors….Dignitatis Humanae…Lumen Gentium…Religious Liberty,,,False Ecumenism…not people…Combating error is an obligation…not a liberty,,,
      Things have changed in the SSPX…Look at the many expulsions of faithful priests who have publicly challenged this new stance…The priests weren’t allowed to comment on these not-so-secret deals…But only the priests who spoke out critically were punished…Obviously the “favors are coming due” for Bp Fellay and the SSPX…Look at the massive funding fm the Jaidhofer Foundation…Trustee MaxKrah, Zionist Jew….Supposedly Max Ritter Von Guttman married outside the tribe and converted….Well, 8 yrs before he died he used the family wealth accumulated through partnerships w/the Rothschilds to found a bank-Bank Guttman….and this “convert” lived and died an extraordinarily wealthy usurer…
      Guntard Gutman, the present heir, is described as an international banker and is associated w/the Acton Institute…which exists for the purpose of making biblical and Church teaching on usury and greed of no effect among the Christian flock….
      5/11 Bp Fellay-“Some things that we taught were errors of the Council were not errors of the Council but misinterpretations….” He just sd the Archbp taught something wrong…He’s been asked to clarify that ( what exactly did the Archbp teach that was wrong ) and still hasn’t…
      John Vennari didn’t think it was news that the Jaidhofer Foundation is throwing money at Fellay and paying for our new Taj Mahal seminary in Va.? What gives? Mustn’t upset the SSPX faithful ( and the advertising/subscr revenue ) who have made the mistake of equating the Traditionalist cause with the clique in Menzingen ( Bp Fellay, Fr. Pflueger, their lawyer Max Krah )…? .

      • Bill,
        Taken out or just out of print?

        Whole stance? So the whole stance amounts to one statement on a cns interview?

        Faithful priests expelled? You were a soldier, if in the middle of an enemy engagement some soldiers start challenging the co and then form their own detachment(sspx-so) and then setoff into the battlefield on their own…

        What would the usmc do to them?

      • Now you are touching on one of those internet rumors that I can personally answer since I run the bookstore at a Society priory. Not only have I NEVER been given a list of which books to order or not order, I have received no direction, written or verbal, to stop ordering any books, including the Archbishop’s books. So please knock that part of your nonsense off.

        This obsession with Jew-boogymen being the root of all evil is so annoying. The only positive part about it is that it helps those of trying to REALLY work out our salvation to discern the wack-jobs among the laity and clergy as well. If you want to find the root of evil, you will find it in your own soul, and mine, and every other human soul you will come in contact with. Fix that, and there is nothing a Jew, Muslim, or Martian can do to harm you, because you will be set for salvation.

  18. wrt ++Mueller, I will be watching to see if he backtracks .

    • Backtrack how far? I think he needs to backtrack way prior to his appointment as head of the CDF, maybe all the way to his ordination.

      • I want to see the baptismal certificate!

        And, Ned ( tradical ), you old softy, ya gotta get real. Heretical popes, cardinals and bishops can and do – and certainly have – happened.

        Benoit XVI has publicly repudiated the Syllabus of Errors, praised the “principles” of the French Revolution for pity’s sake and has written that traditionalists cannot be too firmly resisted. And some of that occurred even before he got the keys to the papal land speeder and raced off to Mos Eisley to fast-track the “beatification” of the one man in all Church history about whom it may be said that the ONLY costume he did not wear during his traveling road show was a Howdy Doody shirt and suspenders!

        Trust me, had his health held out, we would have witnessed that, too!

        • Actually Gpm,

          I was thinking how he (++Mueller) made similar crazy statements prior to June 13th and then recanted most of them publicly when confronted by the SSPX.

          Now we have another ‘attack’, so to speak, on the libs and the trads (I’m assuming he meant SSPX) and now it will be interesting to see if he recants or corrects his statements … again.

          Either way it would be an indication of which way the wind is blowing in Rome. NB: A small indication, but an indication nonetheless.

          I just read that the SSPX is going to make a formal reply to this statement.

          “It is clear that it will take a little explaining before we sort out the grain from the chaff in this simplistic argument, and we shall do so as a formal reply.”
          sspx.org/sspx_and_rome/is_the_sspx_heretical_1_11-30_2012.htm

          Just gotta keep up with P^3.

          I’m going to update the original thread now. Have a good evening!!!

        • Pat, you San Diegans are so irreverent. try Fillipi’s pizza on India St. and it will calm you down a bit (order double cheeze).

          • Got it on the to do list, Vinny! Thanks! Usually grab Sammy’s woodfired up in Carlsbad. It’s SO good that the shop has even been mentioned in novels! Hope you’re not getting belted with too much white stuff! Although, believe it or don’t, I actually do miss that. As an ex-slalom skier, it stays with you. Gotta try the hills east of here one of these days. A “cool” thing here is to ski in the am and then race west to the beach to surf in the afternoon.

            And, oh, the irreverence? Mere psyops stuff. Don’t tell a soul but I’m actually with a covert ops group, HQ’d somewhere in the hills, near sunny Nova Roma…… These days, one NEVER knows for sure who one is REALLY communicating with, do they? Ooops, gotta move fast! Our lookout just spotted Tradical and his A-team approaching the piazza at St. Peter’s in a convoy…. gotta go! : – )

            www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii1tc493bZM

  19. Merci, tradical!

    I just read the same statement from the Society. And, while I have other questions which I hope will be cleared up in good time, it was a well thought out response.

    So, see? I acknowledge things done well. As well as those not so.

    And thank you for your good wishes. I am under the weather, as they say. And, yes, contrary to the Mamas and the Papas munificent wisdom ( to say nothing of their ontological melifluousness ), it actually DOES rain in California. Which brings up the really important news for those near La Jolla: SURF’S UP, DUDE!

    G’night, Ned. ( And John LeCarre said to say hi, too! ) : – )

    • My Mom once gave me a ‘remedy’ for a flu: Hot Tea with a bit of Rum.

      I decided to try the remedy one fine morning (it was a nasty flu) but after an hour of no relief, I’d try it again … and again. Each time increasing the amount of Rum and decreasing the amount tea. Let’s just say, I tried to optimize the mixture about 6 or 7 times. The result was not what my Mom intended.

      A. I suffered through the flu pains all day and night
      B. I suffered through the severe dehydration brought on by the alcohol all the next day.

      What a waste of good rum (I didn’t enjoy it at all) … I’ve switched to Rye since then…. take care!

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