Lefebvrians Society of Saint Pius X asks for more time
The traditionalist movement has asked for more time to reflect on the Vatican’s reconciliation proposal. The Holy See is willing to wait
Alessandro Speciale
vatican city
10/27/12
Lefebvrians need more time before they can respond to the Vatican’s offer of reconciliation and the Holy See seems willing to concede it. A statement issued today by the Pontifical Commission “Ecclesia Dei” – which is in charge of relations with traditionalist communities within the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and led by the Congregation’s prefect, Mgr. Gerhard Ludwig Müller – stated that last 6 September the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X asked for “additional time for reflection and study” in order to prepare its response to the Holy See’s reconciliation proposal.
“Ecclesia Dei” recognises that “after thirty years of separation, it is understandable that time is needed to absorb the significance of these recent developments” and that “patience, serenity, perseverance and trust are needed” for a reconciliation to take place.
The Vatican proposal was made last 13 June, when the Commission presented Lefebvrian Superior, Mgr. Bernard Fellay, with “a doctrinal declaration together with a proposal for the canonical normalization of its status within the Catholic Church,” through an Apostolic Prelature like the one set up especially for the Opus Dei.
Since then, Lefebvrians have held the General Chapter which established three fundamental conditions for reconciliation: the celebration of the Tridentine mass only, the right to criticise the Second Vatican Council’s “mistakes” and the guarantee of having at least one bishop of their own. Leaders of the Fraternity have, on many occasions, said that they could not accept the Vatican’s doctrinal declaration, without, however, sending an official response.
Then, last week, Lefebvrian leaders announced the exclusion of Mgr. Richard Williamson, one of the Fraternity’s four bishops, from the Society of St. Pius X. Mgr. Williamson had been on a collision course with SSPX leaders because of his refusal to make any compromise whatsoever with Rome and because he had asked Fellay to resign. Williamson had been the root cause of a serious crisis in Jewish-Catholic relations in 2009, when he reiterated his denial of the Holocaust, shortly before Benedict XVI revoked the excommunication of the four Lefebvrian prelates. The “Ecclesia Dei” statement makes no reference to Williamson’s expulsion, which the Holy See was very much in favour of.
The Commission has laid out the rapprochement course for traditionalists and the Vatican, which Benedict XVI has been so eager to establish after “three years of doctrinal and theological dialogues” on “some disputed issues in the interpretation of certain documents of Vatican Council II.” A “culminating point along this difficult path was reached when, on 13 June 2012, the Pontifical Commission presented to the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X a doctrinal declaration together with a proposal for the canonical normalization of its status within the Catholic Church.” This was after the liberalisation of the Tridentine mass in 2007 and the abolition of excommunication in 2009.
Ooops! I tought the document presented June 13 was “not acceptable” for the SSPX and now I understand Menzingen issued no such official answer. Maybe they will answer after all, and maybe they will ask for something very different or slightly different. And maybe Bp W was hindering an agreement and it’s a problem that was dealt with three days ago.
THERE IS NO DEAL! THERE IS NO DEAL! THERE IS NO DEAL!
Ring! Ring!
Guten tag? Ja, Ich bin hier. Was? WAAAASSSS? Was ist los?
( mumble mumble mumble, yaketta yaketta yaketta …. Verstenhen Sie, jetzt? )
Ja, Ich verstehe….
Click!
WUNDERBAR! WUNDERBAR! WUNDERBAR!
The problem lies with Fellay whose financial adviser (controller) is a zionist Jew – Max Krah who has formulated two large corporations with SSPX monies with Fellay as CEO and Krah as a
high official in said corporations. To conceal Minzingen’s actions, Fellay has silenced Bishop Williamson and made him a persona non grata to the Chapter out of fear of exposure. This will explode one of these days. Hopefully, the three bishops will have the guts to vote a dismissal of Fellay who has been in Power too long. All power corrupts and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.
And absolute blindness…… IS ABSOLUTELY BLIND!!!
What was that business about bearing false witness against thy neighbor???!!
Bother to read the Remnant interview of Max Krah That is on this site!
Then….if you still want to spread National Enquirer style tripe, you’d better provide real evidence from independent sources! Until then….. either put up or shut up!!!
……And If you come at us with vagueness and smoke and mirrors…….. I’ll be forced to reveal that you have a reptilian DNA and Bat Boy is your step brother!!!
Ok, ok, ok. Enough already!! We are all sounding, have sounded, and will probably sound again like clanging gongs. But let us all, with Our Blessed Mother’s help, try to behave like the gentlemen, and ladies, that we all know the others are!!
Times are tough. Most of us are beyond confused. We have to wait and see, instead of jumping to conclusions which are emotionally based. This is what the devil wants. We are Catholic men and women.
I’m not one to talk, I know. For that I apologize. But this in fighting makes an already discouraged soul border on giving up.
Pray and work. Thank you for listening, and accept my apologies for the weak pontificating.
God help us, what a mess. The way things are now, who can be blamed for not knowing with certainty which way to turn? It seems this is the first time in the existence of the Society that it really seems there is no absolutely right side to be on. Those of us who love the Society should be praying for her bishops, priests, religious AND Bishop Williamson and the priests who have been forced out or have left. They have all done is incalculable good for many, many years. May Our Holy Mother give us the light and wisdom we need to find our way in this morass. Amen!