Obama [or rather, the Catholic Elites or Establishment] & Peasant Catholics
There is a war going on in the Church and the Al Smith Obama dinner is NOT the issue.
Hello everyone and welcome to The Vortex where lies and falsehoods are trapped and
exposed. I’m Michael Voris.
If nothing else, the controversy over the Obama dinner scandal is certainly very
It’s revealing the division that has existed in the Church in America for years now. And
we say, good – bring it on.
We aren’t fans of division. But we ARE fans of calling out the already existing division
so it can be brought to an end. We want unity. But that unity must be a legitimate unity,
not just a façade. And that’s been the case in the Church in America for decades now –
the façade of unity promoted by the establishment elites in the Church.
Those elites include not only some members of the hierarchy and clergy, but largely
various lay people whose careers and reputations and prestige are totally dependent on
the establishment and therefore they come out swinging whenever OTHER Catholics
start rocking the boat.
Call them the Catholic-elites. And you see and hear them everywhere. They appear on
and run TV, radio, newspapers and many magazines. They write books, articles, and
issue papers. They cash in on the officially approved Catholic speaking circuit.
And much of what they say about attacks against the faith from OUTSIDE the Church is
spot on and to be applauded and supported.
But it’s this default reaction of attacking any Catholic who points out that the emperor
has no clothes .. it’s here where another side to their personalities is revealed.
Case in point .. Bill Donohue of the Catholic League. A worthy spokesman for defending
the faith in the trenches of the Culture War .. he seems totally unaware of the Culture War
within the Church between the establishment camp and Catholics who are disturbed
deeply about the actions and choices of SOME leaders with regard to giving scandal.
Last week Mr. Donohue appeared on the Lou Dobbs show on Fox News and absolutely
ripped honest Catholics who are concerned over the scandal of Obama having been
invited by Cardinal Dolan to the Al Smith dinner in New York.
At the beginning of the interview after Dobbs has asked him about these concerned
Catholics .. Donohue goes off on a tirade .. take a listen.
What does ANY of that have to do with the central issue? To our knowledge, no one has
implied, suggested or even thought that Cardinal Dolan has been bought off. So, we’re
not even sure what Donohue is ranting on about there. It’s worth wondering just exactly
what notes and talking points he and Cardinal Dolan went over on their pre-interview
Sadly, as you can hear for yourself, Donohue’s lame defense now takes on the air of
being nasty. To affix a disparaging label to thousands of his fellow Catholics across the
country who are deeply wounded and hurt by the Cardinal’s decision, not to mention
confused, is to stoop to a level of liberal name calling.
Mr. Donohue should apologize for that.
He seems to be wanting to paint this picture that because Cardinal Dolan is a principled
man .. that to even question and voice concerns of one his prudential decisions is worthy
of being smeared by the establishment as members of the “piety police”. Frankly, a
higher level of discourse is needed here – not kitschy little phrases you are accustomed to
hearing fall from the lips of Hilary Clinton and Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.
What a patently absurd comment, seriously. And notice, Mr. Donohue, we are not saying
YOU are patently absurd, but your POSITION, your comment.
What do you mean, “give the man a chance, he hasn’t even had the chance to put out his
own statement yet.” First of all, yes he has. He has a facebook page he writes on almost
But more importantly, you have missed the point entirely. The Cardinal inviting Obama
IS THE STATEMENT. What else does he need to say? It is the FACT of the invitation,
that IS a statement that people are appalled about and reacting to.
Are we supposed to be sitting around and waiting for some kind of official explanation
through twitter for why this really ISN’T SCANDOLOUS! And just when will that be
coming? And what exactly would it say?
The archdiocesan communications director Joe Zwilling already gave an official
comment in the name of the Cardinal when he got grilled by the New York media and
said, its just a night off for some jokes and good times.
Sorry, Mr. Donohue – considering the glaring fact of the INVITATION ITSELF, then
Zwilling’s rather limp defense of it as well as the long opinion piece on the Archdiocese
website by a high-ranking diocesan official .. taking all these together .. a statement HAS
BEEN made .. and its quite clear .. thank you very much.
And as for the comment about faithful Catholics who oppose this scandal being quote –
“holier than the pope” .. you can cut the condescension. It has no place among faithful
Catholics talking openly about a very sad situation.
Frankly, who are you to establish in the realm of Catholicism – what qualifies as more
holy than the pope.
By hurling that stupid statement around .. ANOTHER little demeaning comment .. you
imply that the correct level of response should be to simply sit down and shut up and
keep our opinions to ourselves and any other response is somehow beneath dignity. Our
Blessed Lord didn’t sit down and shut up when he saw scandal – he confronted it,
especially scandal within the religious establishment – ESPECIALLY then.
Those two examples are patently dumb. If you recall, when the Holy Father met with
Nancy Pelosi, he would NOT ALLOW a photo op with her. Remember that? There was
a great controversy surrounding that. We’ve even attached a link to the news story from
back then. NO PHOTO OP of the Holy Father meeting with a great enemy of the faith,
Mr. Donohue. NO PHOTO OP! Dumb example.
And what’s more .. the Pope used the opportunity to chide Pelosi for her positions .. he
gave her a Papal smackdown .. he didn’t break bread, pour her a scotch, fire up a stogie
and babble on about joy. And he did not give her her much coveted PHOTO OP!
As for the Pope meeting Obama .. the Pope is the political head of the Vatican City-State
and meets political leaders as part of his duties. That’s a ridiculous example to throw out
At this point .. Donohue’s up-volume blustering has gone from poorly reasoned to
To speak about the church not wanting to be in a ghetto and to engage the world .. and
then use the AL Smith dinner as an example of that is stupid. Exactly HOW is the world
being engaged with the aim of changing it by eating rubber chicken with your enemy?
Does Donohue imagine that somehow Obama will stride into the Waldorf Astoria and see
this marvelous affair and repent? Obama was already at this dinner four years ago – and
you see how much good THAT did for the Church.
And then his sneering dismissing “they have their little petitions, don’t they” comment.
On behalf of the thousands and thousands of faithful Catholics who have read and signed
those “little petitions” .. Mr. Donohue, just who in the blazes do you think you are? You
deliver the same level of respect that we would get at a Planned Parenthood conference.
Your positions in defense of this invitation are intellectually-weak, ad-hominem,
contradictory of the facts and downright uncharitable and insulting and your blustery
delivery doesn’t make them any more true.
Ah, but the underlying attitude beneath them is indicative of something that common
everyday faithful Catholics have long suspected and had confirmed time and time again.
That just as with any large bureaucracy and the establishment that supports it, there are
people who are members of the “in-crowd” and those on the outs – you know, the piety
police with their little petitions who are holier than the Pope.
You may enjoy basking in the glory of having such high rank and entrée that you can talk
to the Cardinal “just this morning on the phone”, but 99 percent of Catholics don’t enjoy
We just need to be content to sit here quietly and look at boneheaded moves like inviting
an avowed enemy of the Church to a GREAT BIG PHOTO OP complete with not just the
Cardinal Archbishop of New York .. but the same man who is the LEADER OF ALL
THE CATHOLCI BISHOPS IN THE UNITED STATES .. the same group SUING him.
But see .. the daily experience of Catholics on the ground Mr. Donohue is that they don’t
get to talk to their bishops. They don’t get to hop on the phone with them. They don’t
get their letters answered. Their emails go ignored or responded to with a automatic reply.
The rare occasion they do get something back .. it’s generally dismissive and
condescending or patronizing or comes from some staffer at the local chancery.
And what is it they want to sit and talk with their bishops .. their shepherds .. their fathers
about Mr. Donohue? They want to talk about the crazy nun in the local RCIA program
saying Jesus didn’t really rise from the dead. They want to try and understand why the
bishop has appointed and is allowing a flagrantly homosexual priest to run the parish and
deliver very suspect homilies.
They want understand why the local Catholic school has ceased passing on the faith. And
WHY do they want to talk with their spiritual fathers about all these topics and more. Mr.
Because they are reeling from the fact that no one in their family goes to Mass anymore.
That their children are living in sin, that their siblings are practicing contraception, that
their grandchildren don’t believe in the Real Presence .. that their parents are divorced or
cheating on each other and support abortion or same-sex marriage .. that the culture at
large and the Culture of Death specifically has consumed the people they love and they
don’t see one blessed finger of any consequence being lifted by the establishment church
and those who glide comfortably through those halls of power to rescue their loved ones.
All they see is confusion and mixed messages and politics and money-grubbing and good
traditional Catholics .. clergy included .. being marginalized and abuse after abuse after
abuse going on at Sunday Mass and the devotional life withering on the vine and parishes
being closed by the hundreds .. and religious orders withering up and vocations
disappearing .. and confessions a thing of the past and Catholic marriages and baptisms
plummeting to record lows.
In short .. they see the reality for what it Mr. Donohue. They see the souls of their loved
ones being lost and a Church that should be bold and aggressive in preventing that dying
on the vine.
That’s REALLY what’s going on here with the Al Smith dinner .. the whole bloody back
drop to this sad affair. The Obama invite is really a flashpoint for the much larger
unspoken battle in the Church .. the battle not between Modernists and Orthodox .. but
between the Catholic-elites and the Peasant Catholics that the power structures want
nothing to do with.
And why do they want nothing to do with them? Because to engage them would force
the elites to be accountable and they know it. They would have to try and render an
explanation for all the filth and corruption and lack of charity that has so permeated the
halls of the establishment Church.
The leaders would have to explain their decisions to allow the madness of errant theology
being preached .. of the spiritual insanity that emanates from pulpits and catholic
classrooms and religious ed offices.
They would have to explain why the Church has essentially collapsed on their watch.
And they don’t want to do that because they know there IS NO explanation. And
moreover .. they have NO plan to fix it because they are unwilling to understand the full
scope of the devastation because it convicts THEM.
So they are content to send out attack dogs .. to release the hounds on faithful Catholics
rather than sit down and talk with them.
And most importantly what they have failed to grasp utterly is this. Peasant Catholics ..
which includes .. absolutely includes many solid priests and seminarians .. who up to this
point have been dismissed, smeared, discarded, ignored, mocked, belittled and dumped
on, are willing to forgive everything and support their bishops at a moment’s notice .. in a
heartbeat .. if the bishops would rally to the cause of the cause of the Church and stop
pandering to the culture.
You engage the world by fighting the evil in it .. not by having dinner with it.
So how about it Establishment Church? There’s a whole army out here which has been
on the side of the Church and never left. We’re here ready and waiting. Stop treating us
peasant Catholics like we’re the enemy and start giving us our marching orders.
Please sign the petition respectfully asking Cardinal Dolan to withdraw the invitation to
GOD Love you,