Where are the courageous SSPX priests and Bishops?

How does one find the Visible Church on earth? The answer is that it has, as its head, the Vicar of Christ. That will be true until the end of time. To say that we are not bound by or do not recognize the legitimate request of the Pope to solve a canonical dispute or irregularity implies that we reject him at an authoritative level and implies that he is illegitimate. The further implication is that the solution of the canonical irregularity is a de-facto acceptance of heresy. It despairs of the Hope (and therefore the Holy Ghost) and implies that within the halls of Rome, it would be impossible for the SSPX to find like-minded priests or bishops, to maintain the faith, or convert the heretics. We are fortunate that the original apostles did not despair of converting the monolithic pagan societies of Rome and Greece! The heretical sayings and teachings of Bishops and Cardinals in the Newchurch do not give us dispensation from canonical regularity with the Vicar of Christ – as long as we do not accept heresy in a matter of faith. Archbishop Lefebvre did not seek, at any time, to break canonical regularity with the Pope and the Church and when it happened, he vigorously protested the legality of it according to canon law and he sought to rectify it so that his little Society could grow and populate the clergy with his traditionally trained priests. He said after reneging on the protocol the following day that it was “.. with great excitement ..” that he signed the accord but then after reflection, feared that the SSPX was not adequately protected against the whiles of modernist Bishops and the Curia. He wrote “I Accuse the Council” in 1982 and went on to entertain signing the Protocol in 1988 without requiring the conversion of Rome as a condition. He also did not take a vote of his priests before initially signing the Protocol.

It would have been possible for St. Issac Jocques to have sent the Hurons here in Central New York some written materials denouncing their pagan religion and warning them from France that they would all end up in perdition without Christ. In that case, there would be no Huron Catholics, or St. Kateri or even St. Issac Jocques. He knew that the only way to convert was to live among the pagans and convert by example and the witness of the faith. We are currently NOT converting Rome. We are in essence sitting on an island and complaining about their heresy which they effectively ignore.

So my question is: Where are the truly courageous traditional priest warriors? Where are the priests with true backbone? Where are the truly courageous traditional Bishops with true backbone? Where are the priests with the stomach for fighting Rome from within Rome? Are there any courageous laity up for that fight or are you completely content in the private Valhalla of your chapels? Do you not possess the same fervor to restore the church that the liberals had to destroy it?

I am absolutely fed up abdicating the treasures of Holy Mother Church including the Eternal City to modernists and heretics. Perhaps many of you will not mind crawling back into your local Howard Johnsons for Mass on Sundays but I condemn that retreat. With no apologies to St. Athanasius, I want the faith AND the churches!

Have you ever been to Rome and visited the bones of St. Peter in the crypt far below the main altar next to the Clementine Chapel? I have and I want so badly to see the custody of those sacred places restored to the true faith. I want to see St. Peter’s turned back into the sublime place of worship that it once was instead of the irreverent museum it has become. I am personally sick of walking into beautiful Basilicas like those in Syracuse and Buffalo and seeing the “Table” in front of the glorious altar. I want to see SSPX Cardinals in the Curia and electing Popes.

Why do I hear erstwhile traditional men, priests and laity alike, cower at the prospect of what modernist Rome may make them do after a canonical regularization? It is sickening to me. How many liberals did it take to hijack the faith in the 60’s? Not that many. All of the traditional groups that have regularized their situation since 1988 have been comprised of roughly a half a dozen priests and no laity to speak of. The exception would be Campos with a bishop. Our situation is 550+ priests, 200+ seminarians, monasteries, convents, and perhaps nearly a million faithful. So there is absolutely no precedent in modern history of a sizable united stable group of Traditionals accepting a canonical regularization.

I am ready to do that battle from within the castle walls. If you are content with lobbing artillery shells at its walls and then retreating to a safe distance to avoid counter-attack, I would argue that it takes very little, if any, courage to do that. We can post sermons on YouTube and sit in our chapels and shake our fists and preach to the choir about modernism and the new Mass, or we can enter through the front gates of the citadel. Maybe they’ll attempt to take away some of our weapons? I suggest it might make the battle more interesting since the Holy Ghost will certainly be our support.

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13 comments on “Where are the courageous SSPX priests and Bishops?

  1. Awesome post vinnyf.

  2. The SSPX will be a great help to return the Catholic Church to orthodoxy but if they are not protected by the Pope, dissenting Bishops and priests will stifle their work and i can see the group fracturing

  3. Very well said vinnyf!

    If Bp. Fellay decides now is the time, I am with him, if he decides now is not the time, so be it.

    For those of us who would like to see your post on the silver screen;

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAvmLDkAgAM

  4. Wow vinnyf – I love you man. Beautifully stated.

    You need to do more writing here.

  5. chris torey on said:

    hear, hear, vinnyf!

    viva cristo rey

  6. Vinnyf. I would say, just be careful. Every SSPX priest and bishop wants the restoration of the Church; but that can only come about with the support from those within the Church. Neither the Holy Father or the Conciliar bishops have shown any real sign they are interested in supporting what the SSPX stands for. Has the Holy Father ever said one public Latin Mass? Has he rejected the conciliar novelties? . You see the main problem is that Bishop Fellay has not yet disclosed all that the agreement involves. And if it involves things that will undermine that restoration; then the SSPX bishops and priests remain hesitant. Thus far I think Bishop Fellay has played it well; but we await till the terms are made clear.

    Let’s face it the modernist bishops don’t want the SSPX and so how do they make progress from ‘within’ when the owner of the castle want’s them out? – The battle will be interesting to say the least. But I think you have to think somewhat more. In reality most bishops can’t stand the ancient faith and so realistically any SSPX regularization is going to be a thorny issue which they will try to ignore. Do you think they will say to the SSPX ‘sure open as much Traditional Catholic chapels, schools, etc as you want’? I think not !

    To be honest one thing that is disappointing currently about the SSPX priest and laity is that they don’t make much of an effort to evangelize as they should, regardless of what is going on in Rome. The heretical sects put us to shame in this regard.

    Nothing is stopping us from doing from promoting Tradition and getting out there and making it known. And yet we simply tend to retreat into our own little world feeling sorry for ourselves without making more of an effort to promote the faith in the world around us. I think this is far more an issue, from the perspective that given that the Trad Catholics have the ancient faith, there is no reason they shouldn’t have grown a hundred more times in number than they have thus far. Where is the zeal for souls these days? – Are we ready for a battle? Well I wonder sometimes. . .
    ?

    • “Nothing is stopping us from doing from promoting Tradition and getting out there and making it known.”
      l will if you will ! :-)

    • I don’t agree with your perspective for a few reasons.

      Do you think they will say to the SSPX ‘sure open as much Traditional Catholic chapels, schools, etc as you want’? I think not !

      Fr. Rostand has already recently stated that he has no plans to open up new Mass centers in the U.S. at the present time. He will use new priests to get current Mass centers up to at least weekly Masses and perhaps turn some into priories. I don’t foresee this as a problem in the near term. In the longer term, the SSPX may have to learn to work within the system to override stubborn bishops. It has been pretty easy sailing so far but we are talking about long-established canon laws, not something created to thwart the SSPX. Maybe we are a little spoiled because we haven’t had to ask anyone’s permission to do anything for 40 years?

      Nothing is stopping us from doing from promoting Tradition and getting out there and making it known. And yet we simply tend to retreat into our own little world feeling sorry for ourselves without making more of an effort to promote the faith in the world around us.

      Anthony, these are nice words but they’re so vague as to be almost useless. Get out where? Most chapels, like ours, make efforts to be inclusive to neighbors with festivals, etc. Do you mean ad campaigns? I think one of the best ways to get ‘out there’ is to have 4 SSPX bishops included in USCCB meetings, for example. To have an SSPX Cardinal would be worth a fortune in exposure to modern Catholics. Even having the ability to be covered in the local diocesan rags would be a good evangelization tool.

      Neither the Holy Father or the Conciliar bishops have shown any real sign they are interested in supporting what the SSPX stands for. Has the Holy Father ever said one public Latin Mass? Has he rejected the conciliar novelties?

      We can’t wait for this to happen. It was not a precursor for Archbishop Lefebvre to sign the protocol and it shouldn’t be now.

      You see the main problem is that Bishop Fellay has not yet disclosed all that the agreement involves. And if it involves things that will undermine that restoration; then the SSPX bishops and priests remain hesitant. Thus far I think Bishop Fellay has played it well; but we await till the terms are made clear.

      No, that is not the problem and it is not our issue, it is the Superior general’s issue at this point. If you are worried that he will undermine the restoration through either deviousness or a lack of wit, then you don;t know Bp Fellay.

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  8. Anthony Malleus,
    I think part of the reason that we fail to evangelize is because it often seems that we run into a brick wall with our Novus Ordo friends. So many of them can’t see past the “schismatic, excommunicated, outside the Church” stigma attached to our chapels. Most can’t understand the finer points of why we are SSPX versus FSSP. Arguing with the average Novus Ordo Catholic about the nuances of why we choose the SSPX over the FSSP is really an argument they simply they can’t understand unless they are willing to read a lot of books, which most of them are not.

    Once this stigma is officially removed by the Vatican, then we can invite them to our chapels without first having to try to convince them that it is “safe” and that we really ARE part of the Church. Once they are in the door, they will see why we are Traditional Catholic and how Catholic the SSPX really is. Getting them to even cross our thresholds without fear is currently is the biggest hurdle for us. I will be glad when that hurdle is removed for them, because most of them simply can’t see past the unjust labels.

  9. Hosea,

    That is correct, since when are conciliar Catholics the be all and end all of our work? Other people have souls. Why do we hesitate in making the SSPX known.
    Look as apologists I have found that most conciliar Catholics have never heard of the SSPX (that includes priests) and so we often think that everyone hates us, or are against us, when in reality hardly anyone knows about us.

    If those Trads who are currently making so much of there time attacking Bp. Fellay had ever used one ounce of that energy, time, money in promoting the faith, the SSPX would have grown 100 times more than it has. I think we lack the faith, courage, zeal and confidence to get out there and make the real faith known and loved as we should. –

  10. “If those Trads who are currently making so much of there time attacking Bp. Fellay had ever used one ounce of that energy, time, money in promoting the faith, the SSPX would have grown 100 times more than it has.”

    Because for those “Trads” it isn’t about the Faith so much as it is about their feeling self-righteous.

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